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Forum: Armchair-GM18 avr. 2022 à 13 h 9
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>When last I looked, 41 points (Arvidsson, Danault, Moore) is more production than 35 points (Olofsson). Arvidsson did so in fewer games, and Danault and Moore did so at a slightly higher rate per game than Olofsson.

Name a forward in Buffalo's top 6 who is worse defensively than Olofsson.

Name a forward in Los Angeles' top 9 who is worse than Olofsson.

Our forwards are expected to be good defensively. All of them are, even the rookie Arthur Kaliyev. The point remains irrefutable: Olofsson wouldn't play on our top two lines, and we have no reason to replace someone on our third line with him, especially given his defensive shortcomings and his higher cost and cap hit.

There is a reason why SIX forwards on YOUR team get more ice time than Olofsson, so No, he wouldn't be a top 5 scorer on our team. I predict that next season, all of our top 6 forwards plus Byfield and Kaliyev will record more points than Olofsson, and do so while being better defensively.

Feel free to sign him to whatever contract you think best. We wish you all the luck in the world.</div></div>

Well A Oloffaon doesn't play in the top 6. But to your question, right now he is better defensively than Krebs, Skinner and possibly Cozens. I fully expect Krebs and Cozens to get significantly better as they gain more experience and physical maturity. B Oloffson is a career 53 pt per 82 player and 23 goals per 82 player. This is ahead of all the players you have mentioned. I always think a bigger sample size is better when measuring future expectations. If you are insistent on a smaller sample then I would argue that since Oloffson has been healthy about the last 20 games he has 10 goals and 14 points
Forum: Armchair-GM2 avr. 2022 à 20 h 27
Sujet: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Victor Olofsson is just a bad fit for Los Angeles. To begin with, there's the question of roster space: we have nine forwards under contract for next year (Iafallo and Kopitar from the first line, Moore, Danault and Arvidsson from the second line, Byfield and Kupari from the third line, and Lizotte and Kaliyev from the fourth line), and each has proven his NHL quality at those positions. Then we have RFAs Kempe (first line) and Vilardi (third line), whom we are certain to re-sign. (Olofsson wouldn't play in preference to any of our top 9 except in case of injury.) Then we have additional RFAs we might keep, plus Turcotte, for whom we need to start finding ice time, plus possible promotions from Ontario. So there's very little room for him. Secondly, there's the question of value: Olofsson certainly isn't superior to any of our top left-handed forwards by almost any standard including production, and he's easily the worst forward defensively on the Sabres roster, which is saying something (and not something positive). Finally, there's the question of economics: his Qualifying Offer is $3.25 million and he could force a one-year contract, after which he could become a free agent. That's top-6 money for a guy who isn't really a top-6 forward with short term. Botom line: he's not really that attractive a target.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Victor Olofsson is just a bad fit for Los Angeles. To begin with, there's the question of roster space: we have nine forwards under contract for next year (Iafallo and Kopitar from the first line, Moore, Danault and Arvidsson from the second line, Byfield and Kupari from the third line, and Lizotte and Kaliyev from the fourth line), and each has proven his NHL quality at those positions. Then we have RFAs Kempe (first line) and Vilardi (third line), whom we are certain to re-sign. (Olofsson wouldn't play in preference to any of our top 9 except in case of injury.) Then we have additional RFAs we might keep, plus Turcotte, for whom we need to start finding ice time, plus possible promotions from Ontario. So there's very little room for him. Secondly, there's the question of value: Olofsson certainly isn't superior to any of our top left-handed forwards by almost any standard including production, and he's easily the worst forward defensively on the Sabres roster, which is saying something (and not something positive). Finally, there's the question of economics: his Qualifying Offer is $3.25 million and he could force a one-year contract, after which he could become a free agent. That's top-6 money for a guy who isn't really a top-6 forward with short term. Botom line: he's not really that attractive a target.</div></div>

In terms of your production arguement that just doesn't hold water. With the exception of Kopitar and Kemper from this year only Oloffson has produced significantly more then any of LA left handed forwards. He is not a great defensive player but his metrics are not the worst on the Sabres nor would they be the worst on the Kings. As far as the majority of the Kings young prospects they have all struggled mightily to produce at the nhl level. I would expect maybe one or two of them break through eventually but more than likely a few of them wash out as well. Oloffson is by no means a perfect player that is why the return is a late 3rd rd pick and a B prospect. That is a reasonable return for a 20 goal 50 point per 82 game player which is what he is. He is likely looking at high 3's on a multi year deal, by no means asking for a huge some that the Kings cannot justify for the production he would bring. He would likely be a top 4 scorer on their roster. 5th this year playing a good chunk of the season injured. But over the past 3 years 2nd in points per 82 as compared to LA forwards.