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Forum: Armchair-GM 5 jui à 11 h 58
Sujet: Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>A rare triple play -- Anaheim isn't trading Trevor Zegras, Los Angeles isn't trading eighth overall for one year of Sam Reinhardt, and New Jersey ins't trading a first for one year of Rasmus Ristolainen.</div></div>

Reinhart came with a 6 year extension. Of course any team trading for Reinhart will be relatively confident they can resign him if they didn't already have a deal in place. Perhaps the Ducks don't trade Zegras but if they are confident Eichel will be healthy it is a worthwhile price to pay for a player that is likely significantly better than Zegras will be or anyone picked at number 3 will be. If New Jersey feels they can be competitive this year with Hischier being healthy and Hughes hopefully becoming a productive top 6 player then they might take a chance on a player like Risto. If it works out and they are competitive, Risto would not have an issue resigning there, if it doesn't and NJ is towards the bottom of the league again they can flip him at the deadline for a late first to a contender like CBJ did with Savard
Forum: Armchair-GM27 jun à 12 h 58
Sujet: Busy Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Azura0055</b></div><div>The Columbus-Sabres trade is interesting.

Even rebuilding teams need players, and having a very good goalie can be very important. Player development is tough in the NHL, it involves letting players make mistakes that lead to goals. Too many of those, not only loses, but bad habits and morale issues become a concern. Great goaltending can help reduce that.

I don’t think Merz is getting dealt.

The #5 pick. There is a misconception that this is a ‘bad’ draft. Normal considering half the players haven’t played much, and scouting has been a mess due to more important concerns. That said, there are some very good prospects. The top 5-7 picks likely have top line/top pairing grades for most teams. Most of these players are D or C, the two positions Columbus happens to be weakest at. If Columbus shares that view (I think they do), the #5 pick has the potential to net a #1C or top pair D. To give that up at the start of a rebuild is very risky, it’s almost impossible to trade for those assets, and even signing them is next to impossible. I’m not considering ANY prospect in this draft to be generational talent, but there aren’t more than about 10 of those playing at any given time in the NHL.

Reinhert is a 2C on a 2C contract, zero surplus value. Risto is an offensive defence-man paid to be top 4, but struggles to deliver top 4 performance because of issues in the neutral and defensive zone. He’s a luxury on a contender with excess cap space, not a core top 4D on any contending or rebuilding team.

Based that, I think that even Reinhert and Risto wouldn’t be enough for the #5 pick.</div></div>

Clearly Columbus looks to move Risto at the deadline unless things go very well as do the Sabres with Merzlikins. Both are expiring UFA contracts and I am not sure about Elvis but Risto will definitely sacrifice dollars for a better opportunity to win. This may not be the right move for Columbus if they are planning a long rebuild but if they are looking to move futures to bring in an impact player now they likely will not do any better than Reinhart
Forum: Armchair-GM27 jun à 11 h 56
Sujet: Busy Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Team is rebuilding; sure, some interest in Reinhart, but you’re talking about a guy who is going to maximize production during the next several years - a period when the team around him is likely to be bad. Yes he is likely to be better than whoever is drafted at #5, but that’s also largely because he is 10 years older than whoever is going to be drafted at #5.

And the whole “Bad Players Have Been Drafted #5” argument doesn’t do much - Petersson, Hanifin, Lindholm, are also recent #5 picks. If the prospect picked there turns out to be as good as them, then awesome.

Plus, saying “he can be your 1C until you find someone better” avoids an important point - the “someone better” is likely going to be obtained via the draft, since we all know elite 1C’s otherwise hit the FA market all the time. So, not exactly going to be wanting to part with high picks.

Same principal applies to Risto, a “meh” player who I hear BUF is interested in dumping more than anything. CBJ already have younger D-Men who are going to want/need development time.

Pilut is signed in the KHL next season, and his Reserve Rights are going to expire in two years; so, if he doesn’t want to play for CBJ, he could just sit in the KHL for another year.

Elvis is a bright point on this team - a very good player who has talked about how much he wants to be here and re-sign. He’s not going anywhere absent a monster package.</div></div>

I mentioned Pettersson being better. Reinhart is better than Hanafin even tough it is tough comparing D to a forward. Lindholm is on par with Reinhart. Reinhart is only 7 years older than who you would raft at 5. You are not drafting 15 year olds. The only centers worthy of top 5 consideration this year are talked about as being good 2Cs or a low end 1 C if they hit their ceiling. Beniers who will be gone by 5, Mctavish, Eklund (also likely gone at 5) and Johnson who projects more to the wing. Pilut has an out clause to accept an nhl deal and only left because the Sabres buried him behind lesser players and he saw no path towards playing. Merzlikins may want to stay and perhaps CBJ need to add an a forward prospect Foudy or Texier. Not sure why Columbus would want to hand out a big contract to a goalie while going through a long rebuild
Forum: Armchair-GM27 jun à 11 h 00
Sujet: What I would do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>You mean like Draisaitl with 9 points? Or MacKinnon who had 38 in his 2nd year? The problem with your "theory" is that guys enter the NHL at different periods. Someone like Brayden Point may have multiple years in juniors before getting to the NHL. Dach went straight to the NHL. We can debate whether that was a good move or not...that's an entirely separate discussion. And it's just wrong to think elite players are simply elite the exact day they enter the NHL. There would be ZERO picks draft surprises if that were the case.</div></div>

Mackinnon had 63 points and 24 goals as a rookie. He had already proven the ability to produce at an elite level in the nhl. Draisaitl only played 37 games as a rookie. By the time he reached 82 games in his second year where Dach is now he had 16 goals and 49 points compared to 10 and 33 for Dach. Again not a precursor to what Draisaitl would eventually be but again 50% more production. Draisaitl is again more of an anomaly than the regular development path. For every one example of a player that struggles to produce initially in the nhl and then explodes a few years later there are 5 examples of a player that is great and produces right away. Again I am not saying Dach is not going to be great, just that historical projections say it is much more likely he will be average to slightly above average
Forum: Armchair-GM26 jun à 20 h 00
Sujet: What I would do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You probably haven't watched enough of Dach yet then, his only issue right now is he's still a bit lanky. Once he fills out he will be like a freight train. The kid is just oozing potential.

I get the idea of trading Dach for Jack but Buffalo would definitely be asking for a lot of additions and I dont think that is worthwhile for Chicago</div></div>

I understand noone wants to give up a top prospect but that is the cost of doing business. I think of Dylan Cozens much in the same way you and many describe Dach. If the Sabres were in a position where Jack and Sam didn't want out I wiuld have no issue with them moving Cozens and 1 o/a for say an Elias Pettersson. Sure combined the pieces the Sabres are moving might end up adding up to be better, but EP is proven to be great and odds are Cozens and 1 o/a will not end up being near as good as EP
Forum: Armchair-GM26 jun à 18 h 37
Sujet: What I would do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Dach's projected to be similar to Getzlaf in both style and skill. Prime Getzlaf was definitely as good as Eichel is now.

A good chunk of points you are using to define Dach is based off his production this year where he came back from a bad injury and was then take out early to let it heal more. To me this means he never truely healed. In the playoffs last year Dach really broke out into what should be expected of him, a strong 2-way center that can compete with the top players in the league. I would say him getting 60 points next year is a pretty safe bet (barring an injury).</div></div>

That is still a massive projection. Getzlaff nearly doubled the production of Dach as a rookie and stepped up his production massively in his second year. Dach may end up being that as a player but it is still just as likely he ends up a 45 point middle six forward that is a useful player but not a difference maker. Jack has already proven consistently year after year that he is that and then some
Forum: Armchair-GM26 jun à 11 h 54
Sujet: What I would do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I think Chicago would be foolish to move Dach for Eichel. I think Dach has Eichel potential</div></div>

Dach clearly has the most potential of any Hawks prospect which is why the Sabres would need him in an Eichel deal. The odds of him becoming as good as Eichel is and will be are very slim. Through 2 seasons Jack had 48 goals and 113 points in 141 games while playing every game at Center. Dach has played 82 games and has 10 goals and 33 points. Since that time Jack has been over a point per game player. Chicago would make this deal because they would want to make one more run with Kane, Keith, and maybe Toews. By the time Dach would likely even close to the player Eichel is these players would be on a severe decline. Also once they reach that point the Hawks would still have an elite superstar in his prime to build a new core around