Hell if that's true Habs win cup this year LMAO! I wish it was that simple.

PRECISELY

that and look at Washington roster and on one hand count 5 bad contracts or players you feeel are overpaid. i look at Toronto and see either great deals or overpayments. it has to be impossible to win when you dont have good balance mixed with player playing w no heart

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I want him to at least have a decent career. Don’t wish that upon the kid.

haha, what? You hope willy is gone and you thinj th3 team wouls be successful with marner? Did yiu stop watching the leafs last summer?

yeah, he was never a top 6 winger in toronto, except when he was. But then he was just being carried by skill guys right? Oh wait no, hes not a top 6 winger in the leafs.

Add to that the potential of the Hurricanes, Islanders, Panthers, Flames, Jets and Canucks all missing the playoffs and getting Lafreniere it stupid to have potentionally included so many good teams in the lottery. It's almost laughable!

this is why all those cup winners are devoid of skill

You mean, you're going to put your cup chances on the 1-way...defense optionally...only offense, but has a 5 year career high of 61 points...despite Marner's career low of 61 points...plays the PK...actually did get some selke nominations???

crazy how the caps didn't have the heart to win until that one year they did,with the same core

more so the 'i hope' part. Which is hilarious, if you hope a 30 goal scoring player like Nylander isnt on your team you need to step back and re-examine some stuff

I guess I need to insert a sarcasm button for you. Read my quote again!

Its almost like i was agreeing with you and expanding on your point

Yeah they bought into a defense first mentality mixed with the superstars showing up and playing with heart....

lol hes not even a top 5 winger for the Leafs. Marner Nylander Hyman Kap Soup...... arent you a fan of the leafs? how do you know so little>?

defence first mentality haha yeah, sure they did.

And are we really going to play the plays behind vetter players so is automatically not a 2nd liner any more game? Do i need to run the gauntlet of how malkin and tavares arnt 2c or other examples ?

Because it isnt

yeah. Hyman Soup KAp arent Elite wingers he they are middle level and hes worse then them so yeah and yeah imagine backchecking blocking shots and playing a complete game would help you win

well hyman is a 1st liner, he proved that this year and mikheyev looks like a good 2nd liner who was having a better season.
Oh and kap playes rw, not lw, so that wasnt an issue.
So yes, johnsson can be a 2nd liner that was pushed to the 3rd line because they had another 2nd liner who was better. Its pretty simple

lol Hyman is a "1st liner" so lets ignore that and lets focus on AJ not being able to leap frog either player. again hes the 5th... FIFTH best winger on the TML. STOP GLORIFYING YOUR PLAYERS!!!! its okay to be a good 3rd liner. Eller is a fantastic 3rd liner and i wouldnt trade him for a 3rd but at the end of the day HES A 3RD LINER!!

This man deserves a trophy

Its amazing how it's impossible for a team to have more than 4 top 6 wingers. Just amazing

yeah its crazy its almost like every winger on TML is a top 6 player but struggle to find a role in the top 6. Maybe some people (not you of course) use the term "top 6" too loosely. its Crazy that a team that has 81 standing points has so many "top 6 forwards. you'd assume they would be top of the division with all that talent.

wow, you're not even reading what you're writing any more. I mean a team with too many top 6 wingers would totally have a couple guys who were struggling to break into the top 6. Like, you spelt it out for yourself and still missed your own point!
You also could look at the fact that 2 of those wingers missed significant time due to injuries, or that the leafa 2 beat defenders did the same with broken feet, or that they got goaltending by fog for half the season.
I mean, there's a reason or two why the leafs could be an 81 point team with a couple extra ok 2nd liners, but apparently it's super complicated