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20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 32
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Probably more like Mitts, 2021 1st and Pilut/McCabe with a conditional pick if Danault resigns
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 32
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To me Start with a first, and then make up the rest of the assets as time goes
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 33
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Probably more like Mitts, 2021 1st and Pilut/McCabe with a conditional pick if Danault resigns


Do they want/need mitts with suzuki, KK, domi, poehling etc
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 34
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Do they want/need mitts with suzuki, KK, domi, poehling etc


not rly fr. 8th ovr pick is prob what we would ask for first
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 35
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not rly fr. 8th ovr pick is prob what we would ask for first


Just to hear a no? Especially without any talks of an extension
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20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 36
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Small detail you can’t add conditional picks based on resigning of players according to the updated cba agreement. That being said could tweek the deal or to get around it sign then trade.
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 37
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Holy Black Jesus, that is way too much for Danault.

Stl is not going to give us Allen for Hutton.
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20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 40
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Quoting: Timmah007
Small detail you can’t add conditional picks based on resigning of players according to the updated cba agreement. That being said could tweek the deal or to get around it sign then trade.


Wait the CBA got rid of any picks being conditional or only picks whos conditions relate to the signing of a player within the trade before the expiration of his contract
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Holy Black Jesus, that is way too much for Danault.

Stl is not going to give us Allen for Hutton.


As good as danualt is offensively, he is even better defensively
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20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 46
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
As good as danualt is offensively, he is even better defensively


I mean he isnt that good offensive. He is okay. If we are moving 1st(s), they should be going bigger.

If not, give up a middle round pick for Bozek, or any other player that is going to need to be moved due to cap space. Then in 2021/2022 see if Cozens is ready for the NHL.

edit: I just saw danualt is a rental. Hell no. This team is no where good enough to be moving 1st round picks (plus) for rentals.
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20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 47
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Fun fact: Danault had a better 5v5 point rate than Jack Eichel
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 49
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Quoting: Dan10900
Fun fact: Danault had a better 5v5 point rate than Jack Eichel


Fun fact, a good portion of a NHL game isnt played at 5v5.
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 53
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
I mean he isnt that good offensive. He is okay. If we are moving 1st(s), they should be going bigger.

If not, give up a middle round pick for Bozek, or any other player that is going to need to be moved due to cap space. Then in 2021/2022 see if Cozens is ready for the NHL.

edit: I just saw danualt is a rental. Hell no. This team is no where good enough to be moving 1st round picks (plus) for rentals.


Cozens is ready rn, but not to be a C, and with this trade he doesn't have to be
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 53
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Danault is far too valuable to MTL to be trade for some "maybe" pieces.
20 juill. 2020 à 23 h 56
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Fun fact, a good portion of a NHL game isnt played at 5v5.


The majority of the game is however
21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 1
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Danault is far too valuable to MTL to be trade for some "maybe" pieces.


Miller has 2 years left, maybe he makes a shows out maybe not, thompson was starting to show something down in the AHL, and the 1st is on its own already a really good piece
21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 21
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Miller has 2 years left, maybe he makes a shows out maybe not, thompson was starting to show something down in the AHL, and the 1st is on its own already a really good piece


Danault is our #1C, and the cornerstone of our defense. He gets 50pts while playing mostly defensive missions against all the best lines in the league. His line is one of the best at 5v5 - His underlaying numbers are incredible. And he gets a couple selke votes each year.

A meh top 4 RHD, and ahl player and a dubious 2021 first is not what we are looking for here.
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21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 27
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How about Danault, Kulak and Mete for Rasmus Dahlin?
21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 29
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
As good as danualt is offensively, he is even better defensively


Cmon. Let's get real here...And Im a huge Habs fan and Danault fan, but...
"As good as Danault is Offensively" Are we watching the same Danault? He doesn't create anything and he has no shot. ALso pretty sure he's only ever on the PP to win FOs
21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 56
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Cmon. Let's get real here...And Im a huge Habs fan and Danault fan, but...
"As good as Danault is Offensively" Are we watching the same Danault? He doesn't create anything and he has no shot. ALso pretty sure he's only ever on the PP to win FOs


I think you’re discounting a bit of what Danault does. Sure he’s not exceptional at anything offensively, but he’s solid doing what he does to help the team score goals. Sure he’s never going to shoot like (insert whoever the habs best shooter is here) and he’s never going to thread the needle like Drouin or Suzuki, but he’s good at all the small things, which helps elevate his linemates’ games, which helps make the TDG Line as good as it is.*

*Speaking of which, we need a name for the line.
21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 57
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The habs aren’t trading Danault, end of story. He is the 2nd most important player on our team, and we would be completely lost without him.
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21 juill. 2020 à 0 h 58
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Fun fact, a good portion of a NHL game isnt played at 5v5.


Umm... ok. Danault also plays on the PK and PP, so I don’t see your point.
21 juill. 2020 à 1 h 10
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I think you’re discounting a bit of what Danault does. Sure he’s not exceptional at anything offensively, but he’s solid doing what he does to help the team score goals. Sure he’s never going to shoot like (insert whoever the habs best shooter is here) and he’s never going to thread the needle like Drouin or Suzuki, but he’s good at all the small things, which helps elevate his linemates’ games, which helps make the TDG Line as good as it is.*

*Speaking of which, we need a name for the line.


Yea I agree. I still struggle to see him as a number2 center though. Maybe I'm too harsh.
Don't get me wrong I think he's a great centerman and a great Hab. I just think teams that win have 2 centermen who can get more than 50 pts a season.
21 juill. 2020 à 1 h 26
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The majority of the game is however


yes, but 5v5 is a pretty dumb stat, mainly, but not limited to, tje fact that points count the same on the power play as they do at even strength.
21 juill. 2020 à 1 h 27
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
yes, but 5v5 is a pretty dumb stat, mainly, but not limited to, tje fact that points count the same on the power play as they do at even strength.


PP points are also way more reliant on the teams system than 5v5
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