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What teams would want Ristolainen

Créé par: Smithcd995
Date de création initiale: mai 30, 2020
Publié: May 30 at 4:02 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
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Comment if your team would be interested in ristolainen. Put aside what you think it would cost only if you’d take him on your squad. Since he is for sure the most polarizing player on this site for the Sabres, it would be nice to know what teams would be interested. A good amount of this sites traffic is buffalo fans and many of their acgms are killed by fans of other teams receiving Risto. We’ve gone through so many years of Risto on the block it’s hard to keep track of who would still be interested. Serious responses only don’t be a loser.
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BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
BUF
Frolík, Michael
4 300 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
4 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Simmonds, Wayne
2 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Sobotka, Vladimír
3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
3 650 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
2 275 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
1 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Thompson, Tage
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
767 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
700 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
BUF
Hutton, Carter
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
BUF
Hunwick, Matt
2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
1 325 000 $
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Montour, Brandon
3 387 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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30 mai à 16 h 02
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Read the description ya bums.
30 mai à 16 h 06
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Read the description ya bums.


I could see the Flyers and Chuck Fletcher being interested in him, considering that Braun's a UFA and they have an overload on the left side. Maybe a package centered around Frost and/or Gostisbehere. I could also see the Canes giving Risto a look if the asset price is low, just because they love both Finns and yearly defensive projects. The team that makes the most sense for Risto, though, is Nashville. They have a dearth of solid RHD outside of Ellis, and though Fabbro has a lot of potential, he was really over-slotted last year, and it showed in his analytics.
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I could see the Flyers and Chuck Fletcher being interested in him, considering that Braun's a UFA and they have an overload on the left side. Maybe a package centered around Frost and/or Gostisbehere.

Frost would be really nice. They don’t need Gostisbehere as you can see from this roster they have a lot of defenseman.
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30 mai à 16 h 15
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I could see the Flyers and Chuck Fletcher being interested in him, considering that Braun's a UFA and they have an overload on the left side. Maybe a package centered around Frost and/or Gostisbehere. I could also see the Canes giving Risto a look if the asset price is low, just because they love both Finns and yearly defensive projects. The team that makes the most sense for Risto, though, is Nashville. They have a dearth of solid RHD outside of Ellis, and though Fabbro has a lot of potential, he was really over-slotted last year, and it showed in his analytics.


Interesting

I think Ristolainen for Turris and Tolvanen makes some sense.

Nashville lets Fabbro marinate a bit on the 3rd pair and get rid of Turris.

Buffalo gets an upgrade at center and a prospect for Turris having a higher AAV and longer term.
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30 mai à 16 h 15
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Wings are interested, anything is an upgrade at this point
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30 mai à 16 h 19
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Ghost for Risto makes so much sense.
I think for just a 2nd rounder, you’d have Calgary and Detroit interested too
30 mai à 16 h 21
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Quoting: csick
Ghost for Risto makes so much sense.
I think for just a 2nd rounder, you’d have Calgary and Detroit interested too


I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Quoting: csick
Ghost for Risto makes so much sense.
I think for just a 2nd rounder, you’d have Calgary and Detroit interested too


If Risto's price is genuinely only a 2nd rounder, that SCREAMS Carolina. They are a club that genuinely doesn't care about temporary logjams if the price is right. They just get the talent and fit them in later. They'll just make an expensive 3rd pair for one season and let Seattle pick the guy that they want.
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30 mai à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I could see the Flyers and Chuck Fletcher being interested in him, considering that Braun's a UFA and they have an overload on the left side. Maybe a package centered around Frost and/or Gostisbehere. I could also see the Canes giving Risto a look if the asset price is low, just because they love both Finns and yearly defensive projects. The team that makes the most sense for Risto, though, is Nashville. They have a dearth of solid RHD outside of Ellis, and though Fabbro has a lot of potential, he was really over-slotted last year, and it showed in his analytics.


Frost would be amazing but doubtful. If anything buffalo adds imo.
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
If Risto's price is genuinely only a 2nd rounder, that SCREAMS Carolina. They are a club that genuinely doesn't care about temporary logjams if the price is right. They just get the talent and fit them in later.


Slavin, Hamilton, Skjei, Gardiner, Bean, Fleury, Keane. There’s no room for him unless they trade Skjei or Gardiner in a 1 for 1. If it’s only for a pick, it’s. Too much money spent on defense and too many offensive d men on 1 team
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30 mai à 16 h 24
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I hope it doesn't come to that.


They should’ve tried to do a Risto + pick for Zucker before he got traded to Pitt
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Interesting

I think Ristolainen for Turris and Tolvanen makes some sense.

Nashville lets Fabbro marinate a bit on the 3rd pair and get rid of Turris.

Buffalo gets an upgrade at center and a prospect for Turris having a higher AAV and longer term.


As long as Turris has legit wings to play with. I don’t think we could afford crap seasons from both he and Okposo at 6 mill each.
30 mai à 16 h 25
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I could see the Flyers and Chuck Fletcher being interested in him, considering that Braun's a UFA and they have an overload on the left side. Maybe a package centered around Frost and/or Gostisbehere. I could also see the Canes giving Risto a look if the asset price is low, just because they love both Finns and yearly defensive projects. The team that makes the most sense for Risto, though, is Nashville. They have a dearth of solid RHD outside of Ellis, and though Fabbro has a lot of potential, he was really over-slotted last year, and it showed in his analytics.


Flyers have Sanheim and Myers as their top 2 RHD. And Niskanen for one more year. They're an easy pass.

Carolina has Hamilton for one more year, Pesce and a bunch of already signed dman.

Nashville has Ellis and Fabbro. A Rinne for Ristolainen and retention, 1.4 to 2 mil a year, could be possible. Mentioning analytics in a Ristolainen trade may not be the best idea...
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30 mai à 16 h 26
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Quoting: csick
They should’ve tried to do a Risto + pick for Zucker before he got traded to Pitt


Zucker had buffalo on his no trade. Botterill communicated this via Darren Dreger.
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Would Risto Tage and a pick make any sense to philly? I just can’t see them doing it.
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Quoting: Smithcd995
As long as Turris has legit wings to play with. I don’t think we could afford crap seasons from both he and Okposo at 6 mill each.


Play him as 2C with Skinner and Reinhart. Play Eichel with Olofsson and Kahun, play Cozens with Johansson and Tolvanen.

Obviously this stuff can move around if we make another move for a forward.
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Quoting: csick
Slavin, Hamilton, Skjei, Gardiner, Bean, Fleury, Keane. There’s no room for him unless they trade Skjei or Gardiner in a 1 for 1. If it’s only for a pick, it’s. Too much money spent on defense and too many offensive d men on 1 team


Svech is on his ELC for one more season and they are a legitimate Cup contender. Bean and Keane are both waivers-exempt and they have one more spot on the right side. If the price is truly that low, they will take that swing and overload the defense for one season so that Seattle can't damage their roster much, if at all.
30 mai à 16 h 29
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Would Risto Tage and a pick make any sense to philly? I just can’t see them doing it.


I dont think there’s a chance they could get Frost for Risto or hell even Montour. They’d listen if it was Joki for Frost but Buffalo won’t do that. Ghost for Risto makes sense and try to get Ghost to play like before.

Dahlin-Montour
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30 mai à 16 h 30
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Play him as 2C with Skinner and Reinhart. Play Eichel with Olofsson and Kahun, play Cozens with Johansson and Tolvanen.

Obviously this stuff can move around if we make another move for a forward.


I like this as long as we can maneuver some cap. Kahun would put up some numbers with Jack.
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Quoting: Riley816
Mentioning analytics in a Ristolainen trade may not be the best idea...


There is a lot of risk there, because Risto's analytics are bad, to say the least, in Buffalo. There is a huge question about whether Buffalo's been misusing him, though, because that franchise is known for complete incompetence, and even with his issues, he's a massive minute-muncher that can handle a huge workload without injuries, which is why there's a big buy-low possibility here, much like Brady Skjei was for Carolina (considering that rental +1s got late 1sts in return at the deadline, a late 1st for 4 and a half seasons of a 25-year-old defenseman counts as a buy-low). I would not even be a bit surprised if either Carolina or Nashville (leaning towards the latter) takes a swing if the price is low.
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Quoting: csick
Ghost for Risto makes so much sense.
I think for just a 2nd rounder, you’d have Calgary and Detroit interested too


CGY GM supposedly said he was interested in Risto, but his analytics guy (rightfully) said we shouldn't do that and they didn't
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30 mai à 16 h 41
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
There is a lot of risk there, because Risto's analytics are bad, to say the least, in Buffalo. There is a huge question about whether Buffalo's been misusing him, though, because that franchise is known for complete incompetence, and even with his issues, he's a massive minute-muncher that can handle a huge workload without injuries, which is why there's a big buy-low possibility here, much like Brady Skjei was for Carolina (considering that rental +1s got late 1sts in return at the deadline, a late 1st for 4 and a half seasons of a 25-year-old defenseman counts as a buy-low).


Being a massive minute-muncher poorly is not a good thing. Part of their incompetence was playing Ristolainen more than 3rd pairing minutes and PP. I showed a bit low situation. Rinne for Ristolainen with 1.4 to 2 mil retention. Okay him 15-17 minutes a game and hope Seattle is fooled into taking him in the expansion draft...
30 mai à 16 h 42
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Quoting: AFOX10900
CGY GM supposedly said he was interested in Risto, but his analytics guy (rightfully) said we shouldn't do that and they didn't


It's the bad analytics, though, that would make the asset price lower. A Risto deal would essentially be all about a bet on whether Risto is actually bad or if its Buffalo that's been handling him badly. It's the same bet that Carolina just took on with Skjei this deadline. With more and more teams using analytics, the smarter FOs have to find inefficiencies elsewhere to stay ahead of the curve.
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30 mai à 16 h 44
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Quoting: csick
Slavin, Hamilton, Skjei, Gardiner, Bean, Fleury, Keane. There’s no room for him unless they trade Skjei or Gardiner in a 1 for 1. If it’s only for a pick, it’s. Too much money spent on defense and too many offensive d men on 1 team


And you forgot Pesce...
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30 mai à 16 h 47
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Quoting: csick
I dont think there’s a chance they could get Frost for Risto or hell even Montour. They’d listen if it was Joki for Frost but Buffalo won’t do that. Ghost for Risto makes sense and try to get Ghost to play like before.

Dahlin-Montour
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McCabe-Joki


I agree on frost. I think we’d rather have a forward than another D for him though.
 
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