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NYR Barkov

Créé par: cbalzer28
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 5 mai 2020
Publié: 5 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
*hypothetical* Barkov wants out of smaller market and to a large market to bring a cup back to NY! send 1st rd pick, Strome to fill Barkovs vacated spot, Lias to get change of scenery possibly bounce back and 2 top 10 prospects
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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    1. Lundqvist, Henrik
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    2. Pajuniemi, Lauri [Liste de réserve]
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    4. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
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    5 mai 2020 à 21 h 27
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    Laughable offer
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    5 mai 2020 à 21 h 34
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    Florida can't hang up fast enough
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    5 mai 2020 à 21 h 34
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    Any Barkov trade starts with Kakko and this years 1st. I mean come on all doing Barkov and Eichel trades do you really think FLA or BUF is going to let you keep a lottery pick then have one of those guys on their team so the 1st the following year is in the late 20’s.🤦🏻‍♂️
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    5 mai 2020 à 21 h 51
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    Try lundkvist kravtsov strome and our next 3 firsts
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    5 mai 2020 à 21 h 58
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    Modifié 5 mai 2020 à 22 h 7
    Quoting: Xqb15
    Any Barkov trade starts with Kakko and this years 1st. I mean come on all doing Barkov and Eichel trades do you really think FLA or BUF is going to let you keep a lottery pick then have one of those guys on their team so the 1st the following year is in the late 20’s.🤦🏻‍♂️

    Yep. I pretty much offered. Turcotte. Thomas. Iafallo. Walker And next years 1st (top 10 protected) earlier in the month. And another offer around Kupari. Iafallo. Clague and this years 1st 4OA. I’d be hesitant to offer that but it’s Barkov a future Selke winner hands down. Although the loss of Turcotte could turn out to be a barkov or the loss of the 4OA could be tough. But again it’s barkov

    This offer is complete crap from NYR.
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    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 1
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    Looks like 2 more years of Chytil in the bottom 6. #development lol.
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 8
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    Looks like 2 more years of Chytil in the bottom 6. #development lol.


    Tho if he plays with Panarin his stats wouldn't be what they truly are.

    He still has to prove he can play big minutes on the PP
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 9
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Tho if he plays with Panarin his stats wouldn't be what they truly are.

    He still has to prove he can play big minutes on the PP


    who does?
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 11
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    who does?


    What I mean by that is that everyone's stats with Panarin isn't their true stats, unless you're talking about a guy like MacKinnon or Crosby
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 21
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    Lundkvist + Strome + Kravtsov and 2 1sts is a good starting offer
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 34
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    What I mean by that is that everyone's stats with Panarin isn't their true stats, unless you're talking about a guy like MacKinnon or Crosby


    I mean why is this selectively applied to Panarin? Strome was a 70 point player this year....should we knock off 30 points from Reinhart because Eichel entirely ran that team? Or howbout Elias Lindholm because Johnny Hockey made most of those plays happen? Is Andreas Johnsson a 25 point player at heart because Auston Matthews gives him a ton of points? Certainly Anthony Mantha has done well because of Dylan Larkin...

    You see how that line of thinking can easily be universally implied, but for some reason is only selectively implied?
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 38
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    I mean why is this selectively applied to Panarin? Strome was a 70 point player this year....should we knock off 30 points from Reinhart because Eichel entirely ran that team? Or howbout Elias Lindholm because Johnny Hockey made most of those plays happen? Is Andreas Johnsson a 25 point player at heart because Auston Matthews gives him a ton of points? Certainly Anthony Mantha has done well because of Dylan Larkin...

    You see how that line of thinking can easily be universally implied, but for some reason is only selectively implied?


    If kopitar has Panarin or a player like him on his wing for majority of his career he’d be 90+ point player almost every year. It definitely matters who your line mates are.
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 41
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    I mean why is this selectively applied to Panarin? Strome was a 70 point player this year....should we knock off 30 points from Reinhart because Eichel entirely ran that team? Or howbout Elias Lindholm because Johnny Hockey made most of those plays happen? Is Andreas Johnsson a 25 point player at heart because Auston Matthews gives him a ton of points? Certainly Anthony Mantha has done well because of Dylan Larkin...

    You see how that line of thinking can easily be universally implied, but for some reason is only selectively implied?


    Quoting: KINGS67
    If kopitar has Panarin or a player like him on his wing for majority of his career he’d be 90+ point player almost every year. It definitely matters who your line mates are.


    All I'm saying is that we shouldn't be reliying too heavily on Chytil... that's it, no need to overcomplicate what I'm saying
    5 mai 2020 à 22 h 45
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    These Barkov trade ideas just get worse by the day.

    Realistically if you want a TOP10 C in the world, the offer should be in the ballpark of

    New York Rangers
    Aleksander Barkov

    Florida Panthers
    Ryan Strome (they need a replacement C)
    Alexandar Georgiev (they need a goalie to help Bobrovsky to bounce back)
    Nils Lundkvist (they'll demand a top prospect)
    Vitali Kravtsov (and another top prospect)
    2020 1st round pick (NYR)
    2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
    Conditional 2022 1st round pick OR 2023 2nd round pick (NYR) - condition being that the pick conveys to 2022 1st round pick if Barkov re-signs with NYR before the 2022 NHL Entry Draft, or 2023 1st if he re-signs with NYR after the draft.
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    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 14
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward


    Ok I had to re read what you said. I didn’t know you were talking about chytil. I mean I thought chytil was a good player but you’re right a player can absolutely “pad” the stats if they aren’t as good as they should be.

    All I'm saying is that we shouldn't be reliying too heavily on Chytil... that's it, no need to overcomplicate what I'm saying


    Ok I had to re read what you said. I didn’t know you were talking about chytil. I mean I thought chytil was a good player but you’re right a player can absolutely “pad” the stats if they aren’t as good as the player should be
    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 19
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    And I thought Hall for Larsson was bad
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    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 25
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    These Barkov trade ideas just get worse by the day.

    Realistically if you want a TOP10 C in the world, the offer should be in the ballpark of

    New York Rangers
    Aleksander Barkov

    Florida Panthers
    Ryan Strome (they need a replacement C)
    Alexandar Georgiev (they need a goalie to help Bobrovsky to bounce back)
    Nils Lundkvist (they'll demand a top prospect)
    Vitali Kravtsov (and another top prospect)
    2020 1st round pick (NYR)
    2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
    Conditional 2022 1st round pick OR 2023 2nd round pick (NYR) - condition being that the pick conveys to 2022 1st round pick if Barkov re-signs with NYR before the 2022 NHL Entry Draft, or 2023 1st if he re-signs with NYR after the draft.


    I'd be fine with both 1sts this year
    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 26
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    I'd be fine with both 1sts this year


    They won't be. FLA would want potentially higher picks.
    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 27
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    They won't be. FLA would want potentially higher picks.


    I mean if we miss which is a good possibility, thats a lottery pick right there
    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 29
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    I mean if we miss which is a good possibility, thats a lottery pick right there


    There might be no lottery this year. The whole deal is a big mystery.
    5 mai 2020 à 23 h 34
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    Quoting: KINGS67
    If kopitar has Panarin or a player like him on his wing for majority of his career he’d be 90+ point player almost every year. It definitely matters who your line mates are.


    yeah I'm agreeing with you. It does matter. Just not sure why Strome is getting excessively dinged for that when several other players in the league who severely benefit from having elite linemates remained relatively unscathed.

    Should probably go the other direction too right?

    As in maybe putting up 35 points with a 4th liner in Jujhar Khaira and an AHL level Jesse Puljujarvi and no time on PP1, is probably equal to putting up 45-50 points with guys like Arturri Lehkonen and Joel Armia?
    6 mai 2020 à 0 h 25
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    yeah I'm agreeing with you. It does matter. Just not sure why Strome is getting excessively dinged for that when several other players in the league who severely benefit from having elite linemates remained relatively unscathed.

    Should probably go the other direction too right?

    As in maybe putting up 35 points with a 4th liner in Jujhar Khaira and an AHL level Jesse Puljujarvi and no time on PP1, is probably equal to putting up 45-50 points with guys like Arturri Lehkonen and Joel Armia?


    If you talk about Domi you might wanna change you story because actually Armia hasn’t play that much with him have been hurts for a while and have played with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi mostly. Domi was mostly use with Lehkonen, Weal and Cousin. Look to me like 4th line players to. Domi still managed to produced this year.
    6 mai 2020 à 6 h 43
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    Quoting: Xqb15
    Any Barkov trade starts with Kakko and this years 1st. I mean come on all doing Barkov and Eichel trades do you really think FLA or BUF is going to let you keep a lottery pick then have one of those guys on their team so the 1st the following year is in the late 20’s.🤦🏻‍♂️


    Completely false... The Rangers are not looking to trade Kakko while FLA (as per the rumors) are looking to trade Barkov. FLA will take the best package of players offered to them or they will keep Barkov. Unlike Barkov, Kakko will not be traded.
    6 mai 2020 à 7 h 9
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    Modifié 6 mai 2020 à 7 h 17
    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    What I mean by that is that everyone's stats with Panarin isn't their true stats, unless you're talking about a guy like MacKinnon or Crosby



    Not to pick on just you, but it's completely absurd how many participants on this site claim Panarin pads Strome's stats or the stats of anyone else that he might one day play on a line with. Is Panarin the best player in hockey? Obviously not! So if it's so easy to pad other players stats, like so many on this site claim Panarin does to Strome's stats, why aren't other teams doing the same thing with players considered to be better players than Panarin?

    Panarin is having the best season statistically of his career. If Strome is not credited for being a big reason for that then Jasper Fast should be credited. It's completely absurd that on this site Panarin is the only player in the league padding another players stats. Did I miss a memo declaring that Panarin is now considered to be the best player in the league?
    6 mai 2020 à 9 h 10
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    Quoting: AJC13
    Completely false... The Rangers are not looking to trade Kakko while FLA (as per the rumors) are looking to trade Barkov. FLA will take the best package of players offered to them or they will keep Barkov. Unlike Barkov, Kakko will not be traded.


    When some dude just makes up some story about Barkov, because there are some half truths involved like FLA ownership wanting payroll cut it doesn’t mean jack. An elite 1C with multiple years doesn’t get moved for a pile of crap because of said made up story. And if the Rangers don’t pony up, someone else assuredly will. And ponying up for an elite 1C means your #1 prospect, your #1 NHL young player and probably multiple #1 picks. So while it is possible (anything is theoretically possible) Barkov gets traded he sure as **** isn’t getting traded to the Rangers with out Kakko going back.
     
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