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MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER FROM EVERY TEAM

Créé par: Jo_Habs77
Date de création initiale: mar 24, 2020
Publié: Mar 24 at 11:47 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe du client
Explications
"Underrated" is defined however you interpret it.
I like to think of "underrated" as players possessing qualities not necessarily obvious in the scoresheets. i.e. If they do the 'dirty work', take the brunt of the defensive duties, physical presence, size, faceoffs, PP speciality, PK speciality, turnovers caused, 5-on 5 numbers, etcetera
My methodology:
I ask myself: "Is he underrated, or simply rated?"

Will change players based on the fans' opinions of their respective teams.

Yes, we are running out of ideas on this platform with the lack of hockey...

Moved suggestions posted into the "scratches" column
Moved players into the lineup, if there was enough consensus for someone else and/or support from that player's fanbase
Players I had originally included in the lineup are removed to the "IR" column
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
6081 500 000 $191 473 835 $0 $10 765 000 $-109 973 835 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
8 454 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
DET
Mantha, Anthony
3 300 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
767 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
CBJ
Bjorkstrand, Oliver
2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
715 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
OTT
White, Colin
4 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 6
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
916 666 $
AG
RFA - 1
ARI
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
FLA
Vatrano, Frank
2 533 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
894 166 $
AG
RFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
728 333 $
C
RFA - 1
ANA
Heinen, Danton
2 800 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
VGK
Stephenson, Chandler
1 050 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
749 167 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
6 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
NSH
Ellis, Ryan
6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
COL
Graves, Ryan
735 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
WSH
Orlov, Dmitry
5 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
STL
Dunn, Vince
722 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
925 000 $
D
RFA - 2
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
2 850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
EDM
Bear, Ethan
720 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NYI
Toews, Devon
700 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
LAK
Roy, Matt
700 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
SJS
Simek, Radim
675 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
5 205 556 $
DG
UFA - 3
WPG
Connor, Kyle
7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 7
ARI
Hjalmarsson, Niklas
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2
BOS
Krug, Torey
5 250 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Ritchie, Nick
1 498 925 $
AG
RFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
3 387 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
BOS
Kase, Ondrej
2 600 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
SJS
Suomela, Antti
700 000 $
C
RFA - 1
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
1 400 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
1 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
CAR
Pesce, Brett
4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
2 137 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
894 166 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
6 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 6
FLA
Huberdeau, Jonathan
5 900 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
FLA
Weegar, MacKenzie
1 600 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
1 487 500 $
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
5 187 500 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
PHI
Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 3
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
VGK
Theodore, Shea
5 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 6

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24 mar à 11 h 52
#1
Avs 2020s Dynasty
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I would probably go with Nichushkin or Francouz but Graves is a good pick too
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24 mar à 11 h 54
#2
NoBrodinGhostLeddy
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I think Gallagher and Suzuki are viable options too
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24 mar à 11 h 54
#3
Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
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Might be a hot take given his consistent production so far, but I think Kyle Connor is slightly overrated. Great finisher, but not much of a play driver and pretty poor defensively. Kinda the same thing with Vatrano IMO. Good shooter, not much else. I'd say Ehlers and Huberdeau are more underrated.

For the record, I don't like using over- and underrated because, as you said, they have so many interpretations.
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24 mar à 11 h 59
#4
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montour aint it

Larsson or Jokiharju maybe even Ullmark better choices
24 mar à 12 h 03
#5
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Quoting: moli92
I would probably go with Nichushkin or Francouz but Graves is a good pick too


I ignored goaltending to simplify things.
I think the attention on Graves has been quiet with COL's emerging D core. (If it was 10 years ago, his +/- would have attracted more attention).
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24 mar à 12 h 03
#6
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I like Bear for Edmonton, but Yamamoto and Nugent-Hopkins would also be contenders. And, believe it or not, Leon Draisaitl.
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24 mar à 12 h 04
#7
Canes Baby
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I think Slavin or Pesce would be the choice for the Canes, Aho is pretty much a proven elite talent, where as Slavin or Pesce never really get any praise. It does help that Slavin ended up going to the AllStar game though.
24 mar à 12 h 11
#8
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Quoting: sabres1108
montour aint it

Larsson or Jokiharju maybe even Ullmark better choices


I struggled to define "underrated" with BUF, was hesitating with Kahun? Montour just seemed like the most steady-solid-and-little-mentioned presence on that defense

Is there consensus amongst Sabres fans?
24 mar à 12 h 15
#9
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Kyle Connor probably overrated tbh
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24 mar à 12 h 15
#10
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Quoting: jslongo
I think Slavin or Pesce would be the choice for the Canes, Aho is pretty much a proven elite talent, where as Slavin or Pesce never really get any praise. It does help that Slavin ended up going to the AllStar game though.


Lol, I thought the exact opposite. Felt like whenever I see a CAR game; the talk is always about that D core Slavin/Pesce/Hamilton. I put Aho, cause I think he's the 'new Barkov'. He's a 40 goal scorer, two-way centre, with incredible 5 on 5 numbers. Just felt like he's still rarely mentioned when discussing the top centres in the league
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24 mar à 12 h 16
#11
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You could argue Lindholm for the ducks, I've seen a bunch of trades that are like Lindholm for a bunch of meh stuff, but then there's always a bunch of people in the comments saying that just doesn't get you Lindholm so idk lol
Dvo is kind of overrated, def gotta go Hammer here for me
Krug is also overrated, big PP merch, not spectacular defensively, not bad, good 2nd pairing PP QB, but not like elite or anything, I'd say N. Ritchie McAvoy or (depending on who you ask) Kase.... Jaro Halak is also somewhat underrated
Montour is one of the most overrated players in the league, his defensive liabilities get overshadowed by Risto being worse and more controversial, but he isn't anything special either defensively (by that I mean he sucks)
Aho also not underrated, either Turbo or Dougie, some people still think Dougie isn't elite... He would have been the Norris favorite this yr had he not been hurt
Def Val Nuke in COL, ik Graves is a GF/60 god, but Nuke is better at EVERYTHING else
Oleksiak for DAL
Vatrano isn't really underrated... Weegar might be the most underrated player in the league...
JEE or Spurgeon (or Brodin) for MIN
Buch isn't really underrated either, I'd go Fox, maybe King Hank
Tbh, Tkachuk in OTT
Couts Couts Couts Couts Couts (Provy is kind of overrated too)
Love Marino, but it's gotta be ZAR in PIT
Meier maybe in SJ...
Oh god Stephenson... He gets carried so hard by his linemates (Stone and I believe patches)... Take him away from his elite linemates and he won't put up 25 points in a season... Probably Theodore
Oh god Kyle Connor... He is very overrated, Ehlers is extremely underrated, and would be the most underrated on most teams, but Demelo has to take it for WPG, he's right up there with Weegar for most underrated in the league (although since going to the peg he has been drawing more attention)
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24 mar à 12 h 17
#12
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Quoting: Jo_Habs77
I struggled to define "underrated" with BUF, was hesitating with Kahun? Montour just seemed like the most steady-solid-and-little-mentioned presence on that defense

Is there consensus amongst Sabres fans?



mmm not really like I said those 3 guys I guess but like you said its hard to define "underrated"....Like Olofsson isnt a household name just yet but I wouldnt be shocked if he got 40 goals next season if he stays healthy and on Jacks line. Skinner got 40 with Eichs last year and Olofsson has a way better shot, injury ruined his rookie year.

Montour is honestly considered overrated in Buffalo because we gave up a 1st for him and he hasnt really worked out for us...will be interstellar to see what kind of contract he gets this offseason
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24 mar à 12 h 18
#13
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Quoting: AFOX10900
You could argue Lindholm for the ducks, I've seen a bunch of trades that are like Lindholm for a bunch of meh stuff, but then there's always a bunch of people in the comments saying that just doesn't get you Lindholm so idk lol
Dvo is kind of overrated, def gotta go Hammer here for me
Krug is also overrated, big PP merch, not spectacular defensively, not bad, good 2nd pairing PP QB, but not like elite or anything, I'd say N. Ritchie McAvoy or (depending on who you ask) Kase.... Jaro Halak is also somewhat underrated
Montour is one of the most overrated players in the league, his defensive liabilities get overshadowed by Risto being worse and more controversial, but he isn't anything special either defensively (by that I mean he sucks)
Aho also not underrated, either Turbo or Dougie, some people still think Dougie isn't elite... He would have been the Norris favorite this yr had he not been hurt
Def Val Nuke in COL, ik Graves is a GF/60 god, but Nuke is better at EVERYTHING else
Oleksiak for DAL
Vatrano isn't really underrated... Weegar might be the most underrated player in the league...
JEE or Spurgeon (or Brodin) for MIN
Buch isn't really underrated either, I'd go Fox, maybe King Hank
Tbh, Tkachuk in OTT
Couts Couts Couts Couts Couts (Provy is kind of overrated too)
Love Marino, but it's gotta be ZAR in PIT
Meier maybe in SJ...
Oh god Stephenson... He gets carried so hard by his linemates (Stone and I believe patches)... Take him away from his elite linemates and he won't put up 25 points in a season... Probably Theodore
Oh god Kyle Connor... He is very overrated, Ehlers is extremely underrated, and would be the most underrated on most teams, but Demelo has to take it for WPG, he's right up there with Weegar for most underrated in the league (although since going to the peg he has been drawing more attention)


right on with Montour and Demelo for sure
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24 mar à 12 h 18
#14
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Could argue that Blackwood could be the Devils underrated player. He isn't elite but behind that (Let's be nice here) sub-par defense he's holding healthy numbers (.915 SV%, only 14 regular losses and 2.77 GAA).
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24 mar à 12 h 26
#15
Ignore List 34
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I'd say Krejci is underrated tbh. At this point Krug is considered an elite OFD....meanwhile I see people using a compliance buyout on Krejci
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24 mar à 12 h 28
#16
Romanov Our Savior
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Simek for the Sharks imo
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24 mar à 12 h 35
#17
Canes Baby
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Quoting: Jo_Habs77
Lol, I thought the exact opposite. Felt like whenever I see a CAR game; the talk is always about that D core Slavin/Pesce/Hamilton. I put Aho, cause I think he's the 'new Barkov'. He's a 40 goal scorer, two-way centre, with incredible 5 on 5 numbers. Just felt like he's still rarely mentioned when discussing the top centres in the league


Yeah to be fairthe Canes feed does mention the Dcore a lot.
24 mar à 12 h 40
#18
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: ON3M4N
I'd say Krejci is underrated tbh. At this point Krug is considered an elite OFD....meanwhile I see people using a compliance buyout on Krejci


Agreed... Krug has been in 'underrated' talks for a while now .

Is Krejci the default answer amongst Bruins fans?
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24 mar à 12 h 45
#19
bhavikp27
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What are scratches/IR? Because Nick Ritchie is NOT underrated at all

Quoting: AFOX10900
Krug is also overrated, big PP merch, not spectacular defensively, not bad, good 2nd pairing PP QB, but not like elite or anything, I'd say N. Ritchie McAvoy or (depending on who you ask) Kase.... Jaro Halak is also somewhat underrated


Well, that's what you're doing, you're underrating Krug, he is elite offensively

Quoting: Jo_Habs77
Agreed... Krug has been in 'underrated' talks for a while now .

Is Krejci the default answer amongst Bruins fans?


No, Krejci, Rask have haters in their own fanbase. Krejci, Carlo, Coyle, Grzelcyk I would say
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24 mar à 12 h 56
#20
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Hyman is far from overrated. Never gonna score 30 goals but does all the work in the corners that makes his line better. He is underrated if anything doesn't get enough respect even from alot of leafs fans
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24 mar à 13 h 00
#21
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Quoting: jordant89
Hyman is far from overrated. Never gonna score 30 goals but does all the work in the corners that makes his line better. He is underrated if anything doesn't get enough respect even from alot of leafs fans


So no arguments in Leafs nation; he's the consensus pick?
24 mar à 13 h 13
#22
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Quoting: Jo_Habs77
So no arguments in Leafs nation; he's the consensus pick?
24 mar à 13 h 18
#23
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Simek for the Sharks imo


yup
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24 mar à 13 h 48
#24
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Quoting: bhavikp27
What are scratches/IR? Because Nick Ritchie is NOT underrated at all



Well, that's what you're doing, you're underrating Krug, he is elite offensively



No, Krejci, Rask have haters in their own fanbase. Krejci, Carlo, Coyle, Grzelcyk I would say


Ya I could see an argument for Carlo. Elite shutdown d-man that finally started to see the offense come around again this year. Rask would be borderline, but outside of Boston I feel like he's not underrated. Coyle I don't think is underrated, in fact I'd say (at least within B's fans) he's overrated. Grz could be another underrated option. Gets overshadowed by Krug, but is a more complete d-man.
24 mar à 13 h 55
#25
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Thank you for correctly picking the underrated player from Columbus. Bjorkstrand was 100% the most consistent offensive presence this year when he was in the line up. He doesn’t have the flashy stats but in almost every game he has good scoring opportunities, he just needs to improve his shooting percentage to start to join the more elite snipers.
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