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Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2020 à 7 h 19
Sujet: Trading for the 8th overall -- long term
I don't think its a bad deal in terms of value, I just don't think it makes sense. The whole "chemistry" narrative between Raymond and Holtz doesn't add up when you consider they are both natural RWs, so competing for the same position, and don't play on the same team in the SHL. They literally only play together for Sweden and, even then, they're not on the same line.

Overall, LW just isn't a need for us and I wouldn't want to invest in two RWs like that (like Laine and Connor in WPG right now). As OldNYIfan says, if Drysdale + Raymond + Holtz were available, it might be worth considering as we could address the core weaknesses in our prospect pool in one go. However, I very much doubt Drysdale makes it past DET and OTT. In that case, I think it makes more sense for us to just draft one of Rossi or Raymond and to keep Rakell and Henrique as veteran leaders for the near-future.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2020 à 17 h 30
Sujet: Marner To Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/Foreskin_Gump" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Foreskin_Gump</a> <a href="/users/Salzy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Salzy</a> <a href="/users/AFOX10900" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@AFOX10900</a> <a href="/users/OldNYIfan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@OldNYIfan</a> <a href="/users/mytduxfan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mytduxfan</a>

What’d you guys think of this team? Are they a contender?</div></div>

No... too many unproven prospects.

In any event, no way TOR does that deal for Marner. He's worth considerably more than that, even if he is very expensive.

I don't understand the Silf deal either. A solid contributor and playoff beast for scraps.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2020 à 17 h 28
Sujet: Trading 8th OA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Yeah, that’s where i was coming from with that
I’m assuming Getzlaf is a Duck forever unless he asks to be moved, but do u think Anaheim is ready to start blowing it up &amp; move Vets for younger pieces?
Seems like the chance for Getzlaf to really compete for another Cup with u guys is over</div></div>

Yeah, Getzlaf is on the decline now. He's still a competent top liner, but no longer elite. He's still got the hands and IQ, but has lost a step too many at this point. I don't think he's moved. We have too much respect for him to do that.

I think we'd be interested in moving Rakell in the right deal. I don't think Lindholm, Fowler or Manson are available though.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>asauer1122</b></div><div>So you wanna pay 6 mill for the next 6 years to an already 30 year old who averaged 20-22 goals/45 points in his prime which is past him for our 8th OA in an insanely deep first round especially top 10. I think you may ned to reevaluate what is "flat out wrong" in this debate.</div></div>

I think the main aim in adding Henrique is that he'd be a relatively cheap addition that can make an immediate impact, which is exactly what you need to keep Eichel from putting in a trade request.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2020 à 14 h 19
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juin 2020 à 11 h 27
Sujet: Nurse trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Have you seen Benning's stats? He's been consistently good in every season, winning his 5v5 minutes on a team that generally hasn't. He has value at $2M.

5v5 GF% (relative to team)
2016-17: 56.76% (+5.03)
2017-18: 51.55% (+3.38)
2018-19: 55.84% (+12.22)
2019-20: 58.97% (+10.77)

His point production is good too, and steadily improving:

2016-17: 0.71 P/60
2017-18: 0.85
2018-19: 0.86
2019-20: 0.91

To put these numbers into perspective for you, Hampus Lindholm hasn't matched them even once.

2016-17: 0.69 P/60
2017-18: 0.84
2018-19: 0.68
2019-20: 0.63

Cam Fowler did better this year, but that was the first time:

2016-17: 0.71 P/60
2017-18: 0.83
2018-19: 0.66
2019-20: 1.11

That 3rd round pick has a very, very low chance of becoming the player Matt Benning is today.

And just try finding a UFA with those numbers for $2M. I don't think you will.</div></div>

Hmmmm... you make a compelling case. I mean, there are some elements that haven't been considered, namely quality of competition when comparing his numbers to Lindholm and Fowler. Moreover, there is an assumption that Benning would accept a $2M per year contract? Seems kind of low to me. In any event, I am happy to concede the point and agree that he'd be a very good addition at just a 3rd round pick. Even getting 3rd pairing minutes against bottom 6 competition, his numbers are impressive.

Have your staff send over the paperwork :p
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 15 h 32
Sujet: Well New Offseason Plans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>Sure Detroit didnt win the lottery but the majority of the time the last place team does end up winning it. If you are trying to win the lottery and pick 1st overall would you take a 12.5% chance of winning it or something like 18% chance of winning it. The lower you finish in the standings means you have a higher chance of winning it. That's how odds work bud.</div></div>

18% chance = guaranteed success? GOT IT! :awesome

Believing you're going to win the cup with a bunch of kids is moronic. Who was the last team to win the cup with everyone under the age of 25? The notion that the recipe to quickly turnaround a rebuild is to ship out anyone over the age of 25 for picks and prospects is just stupid. Aside from the fact you are not guaranteed 1st OA, or even a top 3 pick, even if you do tank, all prospects come with risk and could not pan out as expected. Like seriously, who do we have to replace Lindholm? I mean, you clearly know my team better than I do. So who in our prospect pool can replace Lindholm as a top line D? Or who can we draft that will replace him that isn't at least 4-5 years away from doing so.

Also, you do realise that having a team that constantly sucks for years isn't good for prospect development or their compete level? and that you can't teach experience and need veterans in your line-up to guide young prospects through the new challenges. Nah.... of course you don't. You're a TOR fan. Just rip it all down and start again. Getting knocked out of the 1st round every year to a team that didn't just blow it up and kept the likes of Marchand, Bergeron, Krejci, etc. during their struggling years is good enough for you, eh?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>I dont think you understand how age curves work or how rebuilding works either kiddo.

Good reading. I clearly said top 5 since Babcock got fired even though the leafs had a ton of injuries and Andersen was awful. They were two goals away from beating Washington and took boston to game 7 twice lol</div></div>

Wow... congrats on winning the "we almost made out of the 1st round" cup! You must be really proud of your team. GTFO!!
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 12 h 12
Sujet: Well New Offseason Plans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>It's clear you dont know how odds work.</div></div>

I said "tanking doesn't guarantee success"... and your response is "you don't know how odds work". Okay, please explain to me how "odds" will "guarantee us success"? I mean, you clearly know so much more about this than I do.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div> The way you are getting better is by tanking.</div></div>

You get better by tanking? LMFAO!! The whole premise in tanking is that you get worse. Trading Rakell and Lindholm wouldn't make us better. You're clueless kid. Go back to NHL 20.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div> Lmfao since when did the leafs suck. Top 5 team since babcock got fired is bad? I cant wait to watch the ducks tank for the next few seasons and end up letting their big guys walk for nothing</div></div>

Top 5 team? 8th in the East, 12th in the league, and 5-4-1 coming into the lockdown. Definitely not a top 5 team... not even close. TOR has been knocked out the playoffs 3 years running. Haven't won anything. Yeah, your team is crushing it. You must be so happy they traded everyone and tanked for so many years. Must be a real joy *shake my head*.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 9 h 58
Sujet: Ducks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>til Weegar was the best d man on FLA for most of the year (playing a lot of top pair on his offside with Ekblad) and I wouldn't say get lucky and draft Drysdale, even if he's available, there's gonna be a better player available, even if nobody reaches for a Perfetti or smth, there will still be Lundell available at least, and if someone does reach for Perfetti, one of Raymond Rossi or Stutzle will be available, and we'd be idiots to take Drysdale over any of them</div></div>

Fair enough, but Weegar's injury-prone nature makes him a no go for me. Didn't we kind of just move Kase for the same reason?

In terms of the draft, I completely agree. Personally, I am not that high on Drysdale. He seems like another Fowler based on what I've read, maybe with high scoring potential. In any event, we need a Hedman. I think he's being pushed up the draft due to the lack of good D-men this year, same as when Haydyn Fleury was drafted in 2014 (CAR could have drafted W. Nylander or Ehlers). My guess would be we get Raymond. Seems like a perfect fit for us with all the other Swedes on roster and is another kid playing in the SHL like Lundestrom. I just hope we don't get Perfetti. IMO, his compete level is too low for him to be an impact player in the NHL and, whilst impressive on the puck, his defensive game is extremely weak. His skating is also very average.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 juin 2020 à 22 h 15
Sujet: Well New Offseason Plans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>my bad. they should really hold onto them because they might finish last without them. theyre actively tanking and wont be competitive for at least two seasons so none of those guys are of any use to them but thats a pretty tough concept to understand</div></div>

Yeah, this isn't NHL 20. We're not tanking. We're actively trying to get better. If we were tanking, we'd have let RC keep his job.

What you don't understand is that tanking doesn't guarantee success anymore. You literally just watched DET go from #1OA to #4OA. Not to mention, your precious leafs tanked for multiple seasons, drafted Matthews, Marner and Nylander and still suck. I thought tanking was the way to go!!! You guys should just trade all those guys and start again.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 juin 2020 à 22 h 12
Sujet: After yesterday
Okay, I am open to moving Rakell in the right deal because I am big believer in Comtois and I think good wingers can be picked up later in the draft i.e. how we got Rakell. However, I have no idea why you are desperate to trade our only top line D? Who we have no replacement for and is only 26 years old might I add. How do we replace Lindholm? We aren't getting a top 10 pick for him because the teams that get those don't need Lindholm, they need to draft, just like we do. So you're looking at later 1st round picks, later 1st round prospects, and maybe a roster player. Do you really think the solution for this team is to continue to draft more and more good, but not elite talent? I don't. Even if we did get a high pick, D-men are difficult to predict. Even if we draft one high, they may not end up as good as Lindholm. Seriously, trading Lindholm does nothing but makes us even worse. I don't see that as a good thing for young players trying to develop. That is literally EDM and it took a generational talent in McDavid + Drai to get them out of that bad habit... and I'm not even convinced they're out of it.

I appreciate that the draft lottery was a bit of a disappointment, but doesn't it also demonstrate that the way to turning things around isn't just tanking. DET just got screwed. Meanwhile, last year's NYR/CHI and, to some degree, LA this season are a good example of how teams are able to get better without jeopardising a good draft choice. Our route out of this decline is absolutely through the draft, but a secondary to that is making smart deals and that allow the kids we do bring in to grow in an environment with veterans that have been their, had the experience and are capable of guiding them through new challenges. Trading anyone over the age of 25 with any value goes against that and means we're essentially sending out our prospects to be eaten alive by other teams. That doesn't sound like a recipe for success.

P.S. The Silf deal is fine. In any event, you're assuming BM had good offers on the table. If the best offer he had was a 2nd + B prospect, would you take it? I wouldn't. Not to mention that Silf is a great playoff performer. He's going to be an excellent leader once we do make it back into the playoffs.