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Trading 8th OA

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29 juin 2020 à 14 h 12
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Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 12
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I think it will take more than this pick to acquire both of these players. I understand the logic the upside of a player at #8 in this years draft is much higher, however you are trading for two proven commodities and will cost you more as they team acquiring the pick has a greater variance on what they get out of the deal.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 14
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I’d rather just trade something like Asplund or Tage & a pick for only Henrique, then i would give up pick8 to get Rakell

Rakell for 2 years & then who knows?
Or let (for example) Holtz develop for 1 more year & then have him on Cozens’ wing sniping goals for the next decade or so

Easy choice for me

Yeah... we’d still wanna add a RW
But I’d suggest going after other cheaper options so we can keep that 8th pick
Guys like Tuch from Vegas or J.Anderson from CBj
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 15
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Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?

Why do u wanna trade Marner?
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 16
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Why do u wanna trade Marner?


Just asking if he would do it. I wouldnt trade Marner but Id trade him for that package.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 17
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?


jesus, no. How does that help Buffalo in any capacity.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 18
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jesus, no. How does that help Buffalo in any capacity.


You are pretty much getting one of the best two-way playmaking wingers on the planet.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 19
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I’d rather just trade something like Asplund or Tage & a pick for only Henrique, then i would give up pick8 to get Rakell

Rakell for 2 years & then who knows?
Or let (for example) Holtz develop for 1 more year & then have him on Cozens’ wing sniping goals for the next decade or so

Easy choice for me

Yeah... we’d still wanna add a RW
But I’d suggest going after other cheaper options so we can keep that 8th pick
Guys like Tuch from Vegas or J.Anderson from CBj


Henrique is available at the right price. I'm not sure Asplund or Tage would be that interesting though. I doubt Rakell is available unless we have a RD prospect coming back the other way.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 19
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Henrique is awful. Stop trying to trade for him lol his best is long past him
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?


No thx smile
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 22
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You are pretty much getting one of the best two-way playmaking wingers on the planet.


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Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?


Marner makes more than Eichel. Buffalo doesn’t have a lot of cap space. Plus getting Reinhart at 6.5-7 and getting a cheap ELC at 8th Overall, while trading their best RHD who’s only 20 isn’t a good idea in my opinion.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 24
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Henrique is available at the right price. I'm not sure Asplund or Tage would be that interesting though. I doubt Rakell is available unless we have a RD prospect coming back the other way.


How about Montour? 😂😂😂

I’m assuming Henrique will be available at a discount bc of his contract
My thought was Asplund or Tage Thompson bc they’re NHL ready guys who can play on the 3rd line, Tage having a higher ceiling depending on his skating improving
And then we’d add a pick like a high 3rd, maybe even that high 2nd
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 25
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Henrique is awful. Stop trying to trade for him lol his best is long past him

Dude scored 26 goals last year
And is a pretty decent 2way player
I don’t love his contract,
but calling him “awful” is just flat out wrong
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 27
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Just asking if he would do it. I wouldnt trade Marner but Id trade him for that package.


I think you’re asking too much
Especially bc we’d still be left having to fill a hole at 2C & RW2,
with now less assets to do it

You hate watching Marner & Eichel together though
That could be deadly
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 27
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How about Montour? 😂😂😂

I’m assuming Henrique will be available at a discount bc of his contract
My thought was Asplund or Tage Thompson bc they’re NHL ready guys who can play on the 3rd line, Tage having a higher ceiling depending on his skating improving
And then we’d add a pick like a high 3rd, maybe even that high 2nd


I mean, I think that is reasonable value. I was thinking probably a couple 2nds or equivalent value, which is exactly what Asplund/Tage + 2nd would be.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 31
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I mean, I think that is reasonable value. I was thinking probably a couple 2nds or equivalent value, which is exactly what Asplund/Tage + 2nd would be.


Yeah, that’s where i was coming from with that
I’m assuming Getzlaf is a Duck forever unless he asks to be moved, but do u think Anaheim is ready to start blowing it up & move Vets for younger pieces?
Seems like the chance for Getzlaf to really compete for another Cup with u guys is over
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Reinhart + Joki + 8OA for Marner, wyt?


not both reinhart and jokiharju

reinhart is a 58 points per 82 guy over the past 3 years, marner is 85...is the 8th overall pick and jokiharju worth less than 27 points and thats before the money factor.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 39
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You are pretty much getting one of the best two-way playmaking wingers on the planet.


theyre getting an extra, at best, 30 points over Reinhart and giving up Reinhart, Jokiharju and a decent player at 8 to get there. They literally spin their tires backwards doing that trade.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 43
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Dude scored 26 goals last year
And is a pretty decent 2way player
I don’t love his contract,
but calling him “awful” is just flat out wrong


So you wanna pay 6 mill for the next 6 years to an already 30 year old who averaged 20-22 goals/45 points in his prime which is past him for our 8th OA in an insanely deep first round especially top 10. I think you may ned to reevaluate what is "flat out wrong" in this debate.
29 juin 2020 à 14 h 47
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So you wanna pay 6 mill for the next 6 years to an already 30 year old who averaged 20-22 goals/45 points in his prime which is past him for our 8th OA in an insanely deep first round especially top 10. I think you may ned to reevaluate what is "flat out wrong" in this debate.


Nope
I didn’t say i wanted to trade 8th for him... DID I ???

Actually... i literally said NONE of those statements

What i said, is that he’s not the “awful” player u say he is
Appears u have an issue with reading & comprehension,
as well as clearly getting your point across

Is the overall trade an “awful” idea?
Now that’s an argument i could make

But go back & read the comments,
and then take another minute to read again

Maybe then you’ll comprehend what’s actually been said?
29 juin 2020 à 15 h 19
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You are pretty much getting one of the best two-way playmaking wingers on the planet.


It would cripple us cap wise and take away a very good young LHD with still no 2C.
29 juin 2020 à 15 h 31
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Nope
I didn’t say i wanted to trade 8th for him... DID I ???

Actually... i literally said NONE of those statements

What i said, is that he’s not the “awful” player u say he is
Appears u have an issue with reading & comprehension,
as well as clearly getting your point across

Is the overall trade an “awful” idea?
Now that’s an argument i could make

But go back & read the comments,
and then take another minute to read again

Maybe then you’ll comprehend what’s actually been said?


Okay boomer, you got me. Didnt mean to get you all worked up. Go get that heart rate back down before youre in a hospital
29 juin 2020 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Yeah, that’s where i was coming from with that
I’m assuming Getzlaf is a Duck forever unless he asks to be moved, but do u think Anaheim is ready to start blowing it up & move Vets for younger pieces?
Seems like the chance for Getzlaf to really compete for another Cup with u guys is over


Yeah, Getzlaf is on the decline now. He's still a competent top liner, but no longer elite. He's still got the hands and IQ, but has lost a step too many at this point. I don't think he's moved. We have too much respect for him to do that.

I think we'd be interested in moving Rakell in the right deal. I don't think Lindholm, Fowler or Manson are available though.

Quoting: asauer1122
So you wanna pay 6 mill for the next 6 years to an already 30 year old who averaged 20-22 goals/45 points in his prime which is past him for our 8th OA in an insanely deep first round especially top 10. I think you may ned to reevaluate what is "flat out wrong" in this debate.


I think the main aim in adding Henrique is that he'd be a relatively cheap addition that can make an immediate impact, which is exactly what you need to keep Eichel from putting in a trade request.
29 juin 2020 à 18 h 40
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Okay boomer, you got me. Didnt mean to get you all worked up. Go get that heart rate back down before youre in a hospital


I’m not a “boomer” at all
I think trump is just as nonsensical as the terrible points
YOU make on here 😂😂😂

Sucks to suck brah
Not my fault though
29 juin 2020 à 18 h 41
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It would cripple us cap wise and take away a very good young LHD with still no 2C.


Jokiharju is a RIGHT handed defenseman
 
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