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Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2020 à 15 h 44
Sujet: Draft Day Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>I have watched extensive highlights of both players and am equally impressed by them. I was previously leaning towards Stutzle until I learned about the age disparity between the players. Byfield is 7 months younger and a year behind in his development process. Given another year to develop, I can only imagine how far ahead his game will be next year.

I'm not sure where you get that Byfield isn't very physical. I mean sure, he's not a 4th line player that's out there looking to destroy players on every shift, but he definitely throws the body around. The nice part is that he doesn't really need to. He can beat you with his speed and puck skills. Some of his highlights remind me of Peter Forsberg, Jason Allison, and Anze Kopitar, and how they use their body to separate players from the puck. Once he gets the puck on his stick, you're not taking it from him. Here's a quote describing his play without the puck:



I think he'll probably need another season in junior before he's ready for the NHL, but projecting 3 years out is unrealistic.

Additionally, pretty much every scout praises Byfield's two-way game. I've heard the knocks on his playmaking ability, saying that it is "only very good" but not elite, but nothing knocking his work ethic or defensive play. All reports that I have read have given him top marks in both areas.

The Malkin comparable is not one that I came up with. Several scouts use that to describe him. Craig Button and Larry Fisher both make that comparison in <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/2020-nhl-draft-quinton-byfield-underrated/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this article</a>, with additional comparisons to Auston Matthews and Anze Kopitar for certain aspects of their game. A quick Google search will show that several other scouts have made the same comparison to Malkin. The other comparison I have heard is Eric Staal. None of the comparisons made are bad company.

You also have to remember the competition that each player is playing against. Byfield is playing against some of the best 16-20 year olds in the best junior league in the world, while Stutzle is playing in a 7th or 8th tier men's professional league. I'd be much more confident in his abilities if he were playing in the SEL or Liiga, but the German league isn't really anything to get excited about. The league leader in scoring is <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/players/wayne-simpson">Wayne Simpson</a>, a player that was passed over multiple times in the NHL entry draft, who failed to crack an NHL roster. It's no surprise that Stutzle looks good against that competition.

I'm not saying that Byfield is the clear cut choice above Stutzle, either player would be a fine addition to the Kings. I'm just saying that I wouldn't dismiss Byfield for the reasons you describe either.</div></div>

Well stated
Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2020 à 14 h 15
Sujet: Draft Day Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Not a good start at patching up a violent debate history.
Why would we give up Turcotte in order to draft Byfield? Byfield has many flaws to overcome as we've talked about. Turcotte can make a serious case to be in the Kings lineup next year. Byfields ceiling isn't much higher than Vilardis or Turcottes.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Not a good start at patching up a violent debate history.
Why would we give up Turcotte in order to draft Byfield? Byfield has many flaws to overcome as we've talked about. Turcotte can make a serious case to be in the Kings lineup next year. Byfields ceiling isn't much higher than Vilardis or Turcottes.</div></div>

In my opinion I think both Stuzle and Byfield will be better than Turcotte. Byfields ceiling is much higher than Vilardi and Turcotte. But like you always say “he has flaws”. So do all the prospects lol
Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2020 à 13 h 36
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 2 h 1
Sujet: The Plan PT 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Very entertaining response, much appreciated.
You say #1 centers are built "longevity, hockey IQ, and defensive prowess." I'll add elite playmaking ability to that and guess what, that's Gabriel Vilardi. However, Byfield is not an elite playmaker. By the way, usually when defensemen are switched to forward is because they can't play defense and/or too offensive...
You really need to actually watch Byfield, he is not very good defensively. If you can't take my word for it, perhaps you can take his:
<a href="https://youtu.be/ShlawnEJjMU" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ShlawnEJjMU</a>

You should hop out from under that rock, there's a lot you need to learn about Vilardi, Stutzle, and Byfield.</div></div>

The stats on this video prove my point... he’s an underaged prospect that is close to equaling John Tavares in PPG in the OHL.. you’re putting all our stock in a guy that had a good season, on an oversized rink, in the 5th best league in the world... sorry bro, I’m not buying it.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 1 h 31
Sujet: The Plan PT 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>First off, I dont bully people on here. I was out of line there.
Second, I highly doubt that.

Now, you've obviously missed some Kings games this year. Vilardi scored his first NHL goal 10 seconds into his first shift, broke the NHL record. Ever since his call up the Kings went 8-1-1 and he got 7 points in 10 games. There is no longer a question whether or not he will pan out. He most likely will be our #1 center after Kopitar. He and Turcotte will be fighting for his spot. You undervalue Turcotte, every scout out there knows Turcotte has the potential to be a #1 guy.

We don't need Byfield, not ever #1 franchise center is found in the lottery. Kopitar was found 11OA. So was Vilardi and both were supposed to go top 5, like Turcotte.

I strongly suggest you watch more of Byfield. While I'm sure we can both agree on his potential. He has ALOT of flaws in his game. He is not like Kopitar because Kopitar is elite in his own end, Byfield is not. He is somewhat lazy and can be caught watching the play in his own end. He doesn't have the best work ethic either. He's not an elite playmaker, he is a good goal scorer. He has almost zero physicality which is a HUGE turn off considering he is 6'4 probably soon to be 6'5. I hate when people compare him to Malkin not only is Malkin an elite playmaker, but a really good creative goal scorer. Byfield is somewhat limited. Also Malkin is a heavy hitting very physical player, Byfield is not. Byfield NEEDS alot of work and it's just not worth it when we have Turcotte and Vilardi.

I know you can say "can't have too much center depth" you actually can, but we'll put that aside and talk about how the Kings dont have any potential top caliber wingers in the pipeline other than Kaliyev. Kupari if he ever makes the NHL will be a bottom 6er at best.
Stutzle will be a natural LW for the Kings and exactly what we need. Not only is Stutzle the better player right now, but he is better than Byfield at almost everything except goalscoring.

Alot of scouts have Stutzle ahead of Byfield and some scouts have Byfield as low as 6. McKenzie has Stutzle at 2. The thing is, there is no unanimous #2 pick this draft, Stutzle and Byfield are neck and neck as far as who will be picked 2nd so in this case, picking for position is warranted especially when already have 2 potential franchises centers after Kopitar.</div></div>

If you’re going to anoint Vilardi the second coming because he scored 10 seconds into his first shift and only a 10 game sample size then your dumber than I thought... Good first line centers are built on longevity, hockey IQ, and defensive prowess. Byfield was a defencemen converted to a center. He is the best 2 way player in the draft. He is also the youngest which means the kings can mold him into fitting the System very early. The fact is you can NEVER have too much center depth... the kings will have to trade prospects at some point yes, and it’s so much easier trading for a top line winger or a defenseman than a 1C... I’m gonna assume you don’t play hockey because your thought process is not of someone who does, or ever has for that matter. When you decide to start taking other peoples opinions seriously instead of whining like a little B***h every time someone doesn’t agree with you, maybe you’ll realize you’re not always right like your mother always told you you were...
Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin 2020 à 0 h 43
Sujet: The Plan PT 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>I'm so sick of explaining this to people who dont understand anything about hockey.</div></div>

Lmao. You come on here every day and try to bully people into thinking the way you do... I know more about hockey than you could ever fathom. You have your opinion and I have mine. You DO NOT pass up a prototypical 1C (With comparisons to Anze and Gino) for a winger, just because he had a good season in a subpar men’s division. IMO both of these payers will have great nhl careers, but the need of the kings is a 1C. I see your cute posts about thinking Turcotte is the next 1C and... you’re wrong. Vilardi is the only one that has the potential and even that isn’t a certainty. With the depth of the kings prospects they can very much afford to take a chance on the amazing upside of Byfield...