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Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 21 h 39
Sujet:
Decent amount of turnover
Personally, I wouldn’t give that up for Trouba; I’d consider it at 50% retention.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 21 h 36
Sujet:
Maybe
Remove all of the returns for the outgoing players and the teams all still say no.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 16 h 52
Sujet:
Trading Ullmark but not ideal value
I’m more so on the side of Ullmark fetching less than what most think but I think this is a little too low. I’d say Holtz value is marginally less than someone like Kappo Kakko so there would certainly need to be more coming from NJD here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 16 h 50
Sujet:
My Heart Will Go On
I’ll take that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 16 h 50
Sujet:
Necas And Zegras And Hronek
When I read the title I’m like hm, these trades are going to be some doozies but, not bad honestly.
I think you’re very close or right on the money value wise with all your trades. I do think Hronek’s AAV will be closer to $8m tho.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 16 h 47
Sujet:
Unlikely Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln</b></div><div>I'd take that for Walman, feels like you are really underselling him here.</div></div>
Yeah, I just wanted to move some money off the books and realistically he should garner something like a 2nd round pick or more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 16 h 46
Sujet:
Unlikely Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Oh joy, more false rumors, maybe bother to actually read what's reported? It's the same rumor since the TDL, other teams have been calling Verbeek about Zegras, he hasn't been calling anyone or shopping him. Go read what LeBrun actually wrote, and don't bother bringing up Seravalli, he's the boy who cried wolf when it comes to Anaheim rumours, guy hasn't had an inside connection in years and is constantly wrong about Anaheim.
As to Danielson, apologies, I read his stat line wrong, I hate how the flip the top-bottom orientation for in season trades, it looked like he went from good to poor, not the other way around. Even still, he's not a returning Zegras level piece.</div></div>
Eh, I wholeheartedly disagree. I think a combination of Danielson + 15OA could fetch just about any player in this league outside of maybe the top 20-25 guys. That would certainly include Zegras as he probably sits somewhere in the top 50-60
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 9 h 9
Sujet:
I Miss Jim Nill
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaquille_Oatmeal</b></div><div>Berggren & Johansson won't get that much and Veleno will be in the lineup or he's traded.
Also: Johansson should take the 2nd pair RD spot or we sign a TRUE top 4RD. Hakaanpää is just another body that plays too high in the lineup then he should.</div></div>
Yeah, I’m prob a tad high on both those kids.
I just like Hakanpaa next to Edvinsson. Big, physical, defensive defenseman would be ideal for the rookie.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 9 h 7
Sujet:
Unlikely Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>The old 11 for 3, I've seen it many times</div></div>
😂😂 it never fails
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 2 h 36
Sujet:
Unlikely Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>What I see is the Redwings unloading every problem contract on their roster, on top of getting two top 6 forwards both young and under long contract or team control, and another 10 million dollars retained by the Ducks.
And the best piece of payment we get is a guy who just massively regressed, in the WHL.</div></div>
No, if I were to give you every problem contract I’d have thrown in Justin Holl’s deal.
The only true cap dump is Chiarot’s remaining 2 years at $4.75m and he arguably had a resurgent year this past season albeit still a certified dump.
Husso sucked last year but he’s just got 1 year left and Fabbri is a good player with 1 year left and barring unexpected events could fetch as high as a 2nd round pick at the TDL.
Aside from the three (3) 1st round picks and two 2nd rounders, Nate Danielson is still an A- prospect or B+ at worst, Elmer Soderblom is easily a B+ prospect and is a unicorn, and Shai Buium is arguably one of the most underrated/overlooked prospects in hockey, he’s a solid B.
If we really broke it down with a microscope, Wings would probably owe ya another 1st round pick or so. So it’s not too far off lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 2 h 23
Sujet:
bringing back some habs
That Ben Chiarot trade is very nice of you, thank you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 1 h 40
Sujet:
Buffalo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aldore</b></div><div>Add STLs at 16, remove the future 3rds and 4ths.
Stl 2024 1st
But 2025 1st
But 2025 2nd
Krebs
Jokiharju
Ostlund</div></div>
Yeah, I think CGY would be crazy to say no to that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 1 h 38
Sujet:
Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>It sounds like you might be doing that with your Detroit players. Fabbri is meh, and a 1st is nice, but that's basically the TDL rental price for a Ehlers calibre player except that this is for an extended Ehlers so its absolutely on the low end.
But the main issue is that Winnipeg isn't looking for futures or bottom sixers in an Ehlers trade.
So it is crazy how some fans overvalue picks and low end players.</div></div>
I can respect not looking for futures being the deal breaker. I think you’re overlooking a detail though with your TDL comparison - getting a 1st round pick at the trade deadline typically the expectation is picking somewhere in the 20’s because it’s likely coming from a playoff team. The pick received in this deal is cemented at #15.
Sure the 15th overall pick isn’t as valuable as say a top 10 selection but to put it in perspective how valuable the pick is, the Chicago Blackhawks just traded a 2nd round pick to move up 2 spots from #20 to #18 in this years draft. Pretty significant imo.
I’m not saying WPG should do that or that you should think it’s a great deal, but it’s certainly not “laughable” as I’ve seen several commenters on here make it out to be.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 1 h 31
Sujet:
Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jets12Kozy</b></div><div>It's both not enough value for an extended Ehlers and not the type of return the jets want for him</div></div>
I don’t think Ehlers comes to a team “already extended”. That happens after a trade unless otherwise specified but, usually has no bearing on a deal and typically isn’t a “sign and trade” scenario.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 1 h 27
Sujet:
swede
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No it really isn't fair. But sure if you would rather give Pesce 6.5-7M be my guest
Even if we pretend Mangiapane and Fabbri are a wash it's still a 1st, 2nd, another middle 6 winger that can't be sent down, and a pure cap dump</div></div>
I agree that Mangiapane has more value than Fabbri but he also saves CGY $2m which softens the “cap dump” in Holl.
Berggren is a fine player, you won’t need to send him down, he will be a fixture in any teams top 9 outside of Detroit. Idk what Yzerman and Lalonde are thinking half the time with their personnel decisions.
Anyhow, Berggren, a 1st (top 15 pick) & 2nd is very solid. I’m not saying I think that you should think it’s fair because that is my opinion; I am saying that you shouldn’t consider it a “bad deal” because it is far from that. I could definitely see a perspective where the exchange could favor the Wings moreso than CGY but, certainly not bad by any means.
EDIT:
Oh, and I have a feeling Pesce will cost between $5.5m-$6.25m and I’d be fine with something in between for sure.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin à 1 h 21
Sujet:
old friends
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Uhhh no. Binnington is not a cap dump at all. Bunnington was only barely better this season than he was in 22-23. The issue was the defense and tons of horrible turnovers in or near the D zone. Plus, the Blues kicked/gloved/batted/deflected 30 goals past Binnington in 22-23. That's literally a half goal per start. Stats are nice, but they can't replace watching hockey.</div></div>
Yeah, I can understand that. I’m not one to draw conclusions based purely on stats anyhow. With those other things considered, I have a hard time distinguishing what his actually value would be in a trade because I can’t imagine it is much given the other details I pointed out aside from his unfavorable stats.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 23 h 9
Sujet:
Buffalo
Admittedly I’m not very well versed on the value of the outgoing players in the Rasmus Andersson deal, however I would imagine CGY would require a 2024 1st round pick in any deal for arguably their best player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 23 h 6
Sujet:
old friends
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Away</b></div><div>Didn’t notice that but that’s the best take
Stats and the eye test work best together hand in hand. Separately they never tell the whole story</div></div>
Believe it or not that’s a quote from Wayne Gretzky.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 23 h 6
Sujet:
Big moves
The more I look at the Calgary trade the more I like it. I'm not sure how good Yegor is at Center but he seems better suited on the wing.
I think l'd rather have Pesce and he may be cheaper than Roy but l'd be OK with that signing.
I don't really care for Kakko, but don't hate the signing. I'd prob swap him and Kasper.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 23 h 0
Sujet:
another go at it
I think we need to stop trading for goalies.
Also, the team needs to add difference makers on offense, we cannot rely on the guys on this roster for playoff caliber scoring. Save the picks ur trading for that goalie and go get some scoring.
Also, re-sign Kane.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
5 juin à 22 h 57
Sujet:
Wings 2024-25 team
Jeez, your free agent signings are pitiful.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 22 h 56
Sujet:
Yzerplan Last Chance
Detroit is not likely to trade Pellikka, even if it is in a deal for Marner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 22 h 53
Sujet:
Something different and adds some size
I think Toffoli should get more than that.
Personally, I think VAN should prioritize extending Hronek rather than trading him and absolutely look to extend Zadorov as well.
This is too much of a shakeup for a team with a core that has seemingly finally put it all together and developed into a potential juggernaut for the next 3-4 seasons +
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 22 h 51
Sujet:
old friends
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Away</b></div><div>Fair and I don’t blame you for looking at the stats like that however if you watched him that year you’d know that he basically every game had to stop 2 - 3, two or three on none breakaways and was facing at least 35 shots a game
There isn’t anything he could really do. Granted again not exactly an excuse cause looking at his stats there were rough but so was the blues defense. I legitimately have never seen a worse defense play and I watched the Coyotes my whole life</div></div>
Yeah, I can certainly appreciate the point of view. As you can tell by my bio, I’m not one to solely rely on stats as they never tell the whole story.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin à 22 h 49
Sujet:
Maybe
I don’t hate the deal for Trouba. But, I also find it to be unnecessary. Detroit could sign Pesce, probably for less money, or wait until the dust settles and NYR potentially is forced to buy out Trouba and then Detroit could sign him for much less.
Obviously just giving up Maatta and his $3m salary and taking on an Trouba’s $6.25m for the next 2 years is certainly something to think about however, I’d probably lean towards passing given the aforementioned reasons.
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