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Unlikely Blockbuster

Créé par: IDKtbh
Équipe: 2024-25 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2024
Publié: 6 juin 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I have a feeling Ducks fans and Wings fans alike will dislike this trade; however, I think it is fantastic. Just look at that offensive depth and peep that second line while you’re at it.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 875 000 $
21 125 000 $
2950 000 $
87 875 000 $
88 375 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 750 000 $
65 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Gibson, John (3 200 000 $ retained)
  2. Terry, Troy
  3. Zegras, Trevor
ANA
  1. Buium, Shai
  2. Chiarot, Ben
  3. Danielson, Nate
  4. Fabbri, Robby
  5. Husso, Ville
  6. Söderblom, Elmer
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  8. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  9. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DET)
  10. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
  11. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (DET)
2.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
3.
DET
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2088 000 000 $86 969 307 $0 $1 850 000 $1 030 693 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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RFA
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 7
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
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AG, C
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886 667 $886 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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905 833 $905 833 $
AG
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA
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8 375 000 $8 375 000 $
DD
RFA
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 juin à 2 h 26
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What I see is the Redwings unloading every problem contract on their roster, on top of getting two top 6 forwards both young and under long contract or team control, and another 10 million dollars retained by the Ducks.

And the best piece of payment we get is a guy who just massively regressed, in the WHL.
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6 juin à 2 h 36
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
What I see is the Redwings unloading every problem contract on their roster, on top of getting two top 6 forwards both young and under long contract or team control, and another 10 million dollars retained by the Ducks.

And the best piece of payment we get is a guy who just massively regressed, in the WHL.

No, if I were to give you every problem contract I’d have thrown in Justin Holl’s deal.

The only true cap dump is Chiarot’s remaining 2 years at $4.75m and he arguably had a resurgent year this past season albeit still a certified dump.

Husso sucked last year but he’s just got 1 year left and Fabbri is a good player with 1 year left and barring unexpected events could fetch as high as a 2nd round pick at the TDL.

Aside from the three (3) 1st round picks and two 2nd rounders, Nate Danielson is still an A- prospect or B+ at worst, Elmer Soderblom is easily a B+ prospect and is a unicorn, and Shai Buium is arguably one of the most underrated/overlooked prospects in hockey, he’s a solid B.

If we really broke it down with a microscope, Wings would probably owe ya another 1st round pick or so. So it’s not too far off lol.
6 juin à 3 h 25
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No, if I were to give you every problem contract I’d have thrown in Justin Holl’s deal.

The only true cap dump is Chiarot’s remaining 2 years at $4.75m and he arguably had a resurgent year this past season albeit still a certified dump.

Husso sucked last year but he’s just got 1 year left and Fabbri is a good player with 1 year left and barring unexpected events could fetch as high as a 2nd round pick at the TDL.

Aside from the three (3) 1st round picks and two 2nd rounders, Nate Danielson is still an A- prospect or B+ at worst, Elmer Soderblom is easily a B+ prospect and is a unicorn, and Shai Buium is arguably one of the most underrated/overlooked prospects in hockey, he’s a solid B.

If we really broke it down with a microscope, Wings would probably owe ya another 1st round pick or so. So it’s not too far off lol.


It feels like you’re looking at value in a vacuum without really considering the other team. ANA is looking to exit their rebuild, not enter into one. Trading core young players for future draft picks isn’t interesting, nor are short term vets

Wipe this trade and simplify it from scratch:

Gibson is available, but retention would be closer to $1.4M/yr. If that isn’t enough, it’s all good, we’ll keep him a bit longer to mentor Dosty. At $1.4M retained he should net some positive value, but admittedly not all that much

Zegras would only be available if ANA got a ‘too good to pass on’ type of offer. Moving him opens up a hole at LW, and his center/LW versatility has already proven really useful. He’s coming off an unlucky injury-plagued season where his value is at an all time low. There’s zero reason to be trading him right now. If we were to explore a trade, I’m not totally sure that DET has something they’d actually let go of that’s worth considering. The Kasper/Danielsons are trending to middle 6 players. It’d have to be more like ASP, but at 5’11” I’m not really sure he’s a fit either. I just don’t think there’s a Zegras trade in DET

Terry isn’t available
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6 juin à 3 h 51
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
What I see is the Redwings unloading every problem contract on their roster, on top of getting two top 6 forwards both young and under long contract or team control, and another 10 million dollars retained by the Ducks.

And the best piece of payment we get is a guy who just massively regressed, in the WHL.


How much is Zegras & Terry worth? Because Detroit is giving up 9th overall pick (Danielson), 15th overall pick this year, two future 1sts, + all the other assets.

Trade doesn’t make sense for either team. Ducks want to get better and Detroit isn't trading all those assets.
”Massively regressed” That's just nonsense. But who actually did regress was Zegras.
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6 juin à 6 h 55
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I'm glad it says "Unlikely Blockbuster" because that's definitely what it is... Terrible trade for both sides in my opinion.

No team is giving up two top six forwards and a starting goaltender in one trade. It just doesn't happen, and for good reason.
And on the other side, no team is giving up that many assets, including a top prospect, just drafted 9th overall, three 1st round picks, and two 2nd round picks, unless it's for a generational talent. Zegras, nor Terry, are close to that...
Detroit are clearly getting the two best players in this trade *right now*, but don't be surprised if Danielson ends up being the best player in 3-5 years from now. Danielson hasn't regressed. He's a very smart, two-way center, has good size, great skating, heavy shot and underrated playmaking. I wouldn't trade him straight up for Zegras. Speaking of a player that regressed...
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6 juin à 7 h 7
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The old 11 for 3, I've seen it many times
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6 juin à 9 h 7
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The old 11 for 3, I've seen it many times

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I'd take that for Walman, feels like you are really underselling him here.
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How much is Zegras & Terry worth? Because Detroit is giving up 9th overall pick (Danielson), 15th overall pick this year, two future 1sts, + all the other assets.

Trade doesn’t make sense for either team. Ducks want to get better and Detroit isn't trading all those assets.
”Massively regressed” That's just nonsense. But who actually did regress was Zegras.


What exactly would you call dropping from 41 points in 28 games to 26 in 26 when you stay in the same league?

And no, Zegras didn't regress, he was injured half of the games he played this year. They finally shut him down to heal, he came back, played two games, and broke his ankle getting dumped into the boards. Hen he returned from that injury he went basically PPG the rest of the season.

Zegras would require an impact piece, Terry would as well, Danielson and 15 oa aren't them, and that's before we talk about the value stripped away for retention and cap dumps
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6 juin à 12 h 48
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
What I see is the Redwings unloading every problem contract on their roster, on top of getting two top 6 forwards both young and under long contract or team control, and another 10 million dollars retained by the Ducks.

And the best piece of payment we get is a guy who just massively regressed, in the WHL.


I would agree that this trade is ridiculous BUT don't ask Red Wings fans to overvalue Zegras, then turn around and mock our highest value prospect. Dude was on a terrible Brandon team and once traded to a good team, balled out, carrying his team in the playoffs. Many in the Wings community think he is a dark horse to break our middle to top six this year.

People are only throwing out Zegras trades because it is literally reported that your GM is shopping him. You don't shop players that you want to keep.
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I would agree that this trade is ridiculous BUT don't ask Red Wings fans to overvalue Zegras, then turn around and mock our highest value prospect. Dude was on a terrible Brandon team and once traded to a good team, balled out, carrying his team in the playoffs. Many in the Wings community think he is a dark horse to break our middle to top six this year.

People are only throwing out Zegras trades because it is literally reported that your GM is shopping him. You don't shop players that you want to keep.


Oh joy, more false rumors, maybe bother to actually read what's reported? It's the same rumor since the TDL, other teams have been calling Verbeek about Zegras, he hasn't been calling anyone or shopping him. Go read what LeBrun actually wrote, and don't bother bringing up Seravalli, he's the boy who cried wolf when it comes to Anaheim rumours, guy hasn't had an inside connection in years and is constantly wrong about Anaheim.

As to Danielson, apologies, I read his stat line wrong, I hate how the flip the top-bottom orientation for in season trades, it looked like he went from good to poor, not the other way around. Even still, he's not a returning Zegras level piece.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Oh joy, more false rumors, maybe bother to actually read what's reported? It's the same rumor since the TDL, other teams have been calling Verbeek about Zegras, he hasn't been calling anyone or shopping him. Go read what LeBrun actually wrote, and don't bother bringing up Seravalli, he's the boy who cried wolf when it comes to Anaheim rumours, guy hasn't had an inside connection in years and is constantly wrong about Anaheim.

As to Danielson, apologies, I read his stat line wrong, I hate how the flip the top-bottom orientation for in season trades, it looked like he went from good to poor, not the other way around. Even still, he's not a returning Zegras level piece.

Eh, I wholeheartedly disagree. I think a combination of Danielson + 15OA could fetch just about any player in this league outside of maybe the top 20-25 guys. That would certainly include Zegras as he probably sits somewhere in the top 50-60
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I'd take that for Walman, feels like you are really underselling him here.

Yeah, I just wanted to move some money off the books and realistically he should garner something like a 2nd round pick or more.
 
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