Reinbacher or the ‘24 MTL 1st as the base piece for Zegras. To move a core player, we need a core asset

Zegras isn't a core peice to the Ducks, if he was there wouldn't be a counter proposal at all. Look at the Leafs, they aren't moving Mathews or Nylander for anything, Florida isn't moving Barkov or Tkachuk for anything. Core peices are those you would absolutely not move.

Edit*** Do I think the offer is weak? Of course it is but that is not what you said, hence my response.

Also I do not think the Habs will do any of Guhle or Reinbacher for Zegras unless they also get back the 3rd pick (where we include the 5th pick and an additional piece or two) since we would need to pick one of the top D men in this draft as a replacement.

Something like

3rd + Zegras for Reinbacher + 5th + Mesar + Jets 1st

Don’t you think you are overpaying a bit?

Zegras is 5th on Anaheim forwards depth chart. In Montreal, the fifth player on our forward depth chart is Newhook

This is an absolutely WILD amount to pay for Laine.

that Laine trade is probably the worst ive ever seen on here

Has Laine secretly been a constant 60 goal scorer this whole time or am I missing something

You know Nylander rumors were running rampant for years up until just this season, right? And that Marner was considered a core piece just a few months ago, and now his name is on the block? For your FLA example, Huberdeau was 100% considered a core piece. And then he was traded for.. a core piece.

As of now, Zegras is absolutely a part of the team’s core. A player or asset of similar ilk would be needed to even consider a trade.

As for 3rd for 5th, that all comes down to who mgmt values in the draft. Personally, I’d rather just keep Zegras, use the 3rd, and go on my merry way

Did you mistake Laine for McDavid or something?

I appreciate you sharing some fun facts, lol. Not totally sure how you're defining depth chart, nor what point you’re trying to make though.

I’ll share 3 more fun facts for you that might be a bit more relevant. Zegras led Anaheim in scoring just last season, he was 2nd the year before, and for the final 8 games of this year when he was finally healthy, scored at a point per game pace. We keep Zegras unless there’s an offer too good to refuse. This ain’t it

The trades here probably were triple over paid because he wanted to have less comments like that from Jded.. But Jded seems to be living in a land where Zegras just came off 3 back to back seasons with 50 goals, and 70 assists.... LOL!

He always think ANA players are worth 10 times more..

Columbus accepts LOL

Habs make le pass tabberwette

Sure. Or maybe people just aren’t very keen to trade a completely locked top 6 forward who’s 23 years old and proven capable of leading the team in scoring fora bunch of mid level stuff in return.

How about a Slaf trade to show why. We’ll give you the ‘24 EDM 1st, ‘24 ANA 2nd, 3 ‘24 3rds, Max Jones, Isaac Lundestrom, and Vatrano. Thoughts?

Not enough to dump Anderson.

The most important point in your comment is that this offer is weak, for which we Anaheim stalwarts thank you.

I'm not sure why you're defining "core piece" as "untouchable" when we define it as "player who is deemed essential to our future success." By our lights, Carlsson and McTavish and Matthews and Nylander and Suzuki and Slafkovsky are untouchable and Marner and Zegras and Caufield are core pieces whose trade would require an equivalent high-value asset in return.

At fifth overall you'll have a choice among most if not all of Silayev, Buium and Dickinson (as well as Parekh and Yakemchuk) because Celebrini, Demidov and Levshunov will almost certainly be three of the first four. (Of course, if Demidov is still on the board at #5 I think that you'll overcome your desire for a defenseman, and you may feel that way about Lindstrom, too.) So I don't see your need to move up, but if Chicago picks Levshunov at #2, I can see Anaheim trading back with you and your proposal is eminently fair and reasonable.


Zegras is #1 on our LW depth chart.

The fact that you think that Zegras is our fifth most valuable forward (he's not) and that Newhook is your fifth most valuable forward doesn't mean that they are comparable. You wouldn't trade Suzuki for Carlsson and we wouldn't dream of trading McTavish for Slafkovsky. Nor would we want Caufield or Dach (or Newhook) for their opposite numbers, either.

I think we just view "core pieces" differently and I only gave my definition in response to a previous comment, since we have different views on what "core" means then by the previous commenters definition, yes Zegras is a core piece for Anaheim. IMO I wouldn't consider CC a core since there are players I would trade him for (M. Tkachuk for example) anyone who is relatively easy to replace IMO is not a core player, I am just old school in that regard lol.

Absolutely there will be D available but the issue is we don't just want any D we want one that fits as well as Reinbacher with a similar ceiling (much the same as what you want for Zegras). If we move Reinbacker then we need to fill that hole, which means we either make a move for Hronek or we move up in the draft to grab Levshunov, hence the reason for the pick swap if we include Reinbacher.

Don't be so piggy. We need Levshunov more than you do. You have Reinbacher and Mailloux and it looks as if Guhle can play his off side, too. If Levshunov is there at #3 we won't be trading back and you can just decline to trade either #5 or Reinbacher for Zegras.

I see Martin Necas as a better "home-run" target for you than Zegras. He won't cost as much to acquire and he's better defensively. Or you could just sign Marchessault.

LOL not being piggy, in my scenario you get Reinbacher + 5th + a sweetener or 2 for Zegras + 3rd both teams end up with a top 6 forward and potential top pairing RD

No he isn’t your #1 LW on your depth chart. Gauthier is. And Zegras is a Center (#3 on the depth chart at that position).

It’s just to show that Zegras isn’t a big core player. He is behind McTavish, Carlsson, Gauthier and Terry. Players who are fifth on the depth chart usually don’t get insane return like some of y’all are suggesting.

Zegras’s value is about 10 OA. You aren’t getting a higher pick than 8th in a trade without adding

Thank you for the instructive lecture on the structure of my favorite team, of whom I've been a fan for more than 25 years. It's no less accurate than the rest of your evaluations.

The amount of Habs fans on this site who genuinely believe Reinbacher and Guhle have more value than Zegras is just astounding.

Before cap friendly ends, just wanted to reach out & let you know take my prize for the biggest fk’n moron on this site. Spew garbage & illogical takes yet report people when they push back on your nonsense. A truly moronic, idiotic snowflake. congratulations 🫡