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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

19 juin à 10 h 43
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Bossy, Kane, Hasek, Brodeur (GOAT)


Forgot to say goalies have their own list. I rank all skaters separately.

Bossy and Guy Lafleur are top 20 all time for sure but Kane would miss out on top 20.
19 juin à 10 h 46
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If McDavid finishes his career with a cup and scoring at this rate for about 5 more seasons I think we could have him as the 3rd or even 2nd best player ever.

1 99
2 97
3 66
4 87

That’s a potential new top 4 all time with Orr and Howe going to 5th and 6th. My biggest question though is how will he look at about 34? He is so reliant on being the fastest player that as that declines how will he adjust? Sid never was the fastest player. He has the greatest work ethic we’ve seen and that’s why he is still one of the best in the league at his age. Does McDavid have that in him to be that good at 35 plus? If he does then I think he gets to 2nd best ever. If not he could be 4th or 5th. I see a top 5 player regardless.
19 juin à 10 h 51
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My top 5 goalies for fun:

1 Roy

2 Marty

3 Hasek

4 Sawchuk

5 Plante
19 juin à 12 h 0
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Pre-NHL draft public rankings for the top prospects seem to have coalesced on:

1) M. Celebrini
2) I. Demidov
3) A. Levshunov
4) Z. Buium
5-7) split: B. Catton, S. Dickinson, C. Lindstrom
8) Z. Parekh
9) A. Silayev
10) T. Iginla
11) C. Eiserman
12) K. Helenius
13) C. Yakemchuk
14) M. Brandsegg-Nygård
15) L. Greentree
16) B. Sennecke
17) I. Chernyshov (oddly enough he is the most consistent ranked prospect in all the published reports besides Celebrini; always ranked within a few spots of #17)
18) A. Jiricek

There are a few public analysts that have guys like T. Connelly, M. Hage, N. Artamonov, and A. Freij in their top ten but the combined rankings don't pan out for those guys.

J. Luchanko, S. Stolberg, T. Stiga, EJ Emery, C. Beaudoin, Y. Surin, and T. Parascak all have their "favorite" analysts but overall their range is skewed between mid 1st all the way to late 2nd round on some.

S. Boisvert, A. Basha, E. Hemming, and R. Ritchie usually round out the mid to late 1st round in nearly all of the rankings.

Anton Silayev continues to be the most interesting and his range from 2nd (Bob McKenzie) all the way to 22nd (Byron Bader) shows the "old school hockey eye test" vs "analytics" conversation inside each team's front office could swing where he goes way more than any other player.

For Mock Draft purposes having Anaheim and Columbus pick #3 and #4 with already deep blueline prospect pools could really make this interesting. Montreal might have 1 or 2 of their top 4 guys fall to them quite easily.
19 juin à 12 h 21
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Markstrom to NJD: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/calgary-flames-finalizing-trade-to-send-g-jacob-markstrom-to-new-jersey-devils-1.2136813
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19 juin à 12 h 24
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Markstrom to NJD confirmed: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/calgary-flames-finalizing-trade-to-send-g-jacob-markstrom-to-new-jersey-devils-1.2136813


Wow, pretty underwhelming return for Calgary from what I expected but perhaps there wasn't as much of a market due to his age/cap hit. That 1st is likely going to be in the mid to late 20's
19 juin à 12 h 24
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Wow, pretty underwhelming return for Calgary from what I expected but perhaps there wasn't as much of a market due to his age/cap hit. That 1st is likely going to be in the mid to late 20's


Is it confirmed Bahl and a 1st, or is it only what Daren Dreger's reporting?
19 juin à 12 h 38
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Craig Conroy…

Nov 29, 2023: “I feel no urgency to trade Zadorov”
Nov 30, 2023: Zadorov traded

Jun 18, 2024: “I feel no urgency to trade Markstrom”
Jun 19, 2024: Markstrom traded

I see a pattern…
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19 juin à 12 h 53
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Is it confirmed Bahl and a 1st, or is it only what Daren Dreger's reporting?


It's confirmed and the 1st is top 10 protected, AND Calgary is retaining 31% of Markstrom's cap hit.
19 juin à 13 h 1
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It's confirmed and the 1st is top 10 protected, AND Calgary is retaining 31% of Markstrom's cap hit.


That's brutal for CGY IMO bc of the retention
19 juin à 13 h 44
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Dallas gave away Dellandrea to SJ for almost free. I think he can be a solid, two-way middle 6 forward. In Dallas, he likely would have been a very good 4th line center behind Hintz, Johnston, and Bourque or forced to play RW. Wish we could have kept him.
19 juin à 14 h 19
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SJS just did the Rangers a huge favor holy ****

Grier might be the worst GM out there

Like you could have let Goodrow pass through waivers went to NYR and then said give us a 3rd or 2nd we will take him but nope
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19 juin à 14 h 22
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https://x.com/ryanhenkel_/status/1803492305229299806?s=12
19 juin à 14 h 42
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Between Goodrow and Dellandrea, it definitely looks like SJ is trying to add some grit to their bottom 6.
19 juin à 14 h 54
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Dubois to Washington? Don’t they have CapFriendly yet?

(Trade per Friedman)
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19 juin à 14 h 55
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19 juin à 14 h 57
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LOLOLOLOL PLC to Washington. Knew PLC was overrated but didn’t think LA would give up on him after 1 year.
19 juin à 14 h 59
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Honestly surprised Dubois gave up on LA that quick or the other way around. Would have gave it one more shot lul

If the rumour's true looks like Kuemper's going back to LA and stuff
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19 juin à 15 h 0
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One for One Dubois Kuemper?????
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19 juin à 15 h 2
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One for one isn’t bad at all

Strome
Pld
Lappy
Dowd


Pretty solid
19 juin à 15 h 4
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One for one isn’t bad at all

Strome
Pld
Lappy
Dowd


Pretty solid


That is if you get a motivated PLD and not the LA version who didnt care much.
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19 juin à 15 h 6
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Dubois career can so far be summed up as this

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19 juin à 15 h 8
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One for One Dubois Kuemper?????


Wow…Rob Blake W
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19 juin à 15 h 14
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So 2 suitors for Ullmark are now gone
19 juin à 15 h 16
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That is if you get a motivated PLD and not the LA version who didnt care much.


Yes
 
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