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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

26 mai à 9 h 58
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Quoting: aadoyle
Makes no sense for TBL to trade him just to keep the older Stamkos

He's a good 2c, good PKer and with the limited prospects and nice contract is perfect for TBL rn


I'm not saying he sucks, but "nice contract" is not exactly a slam dunk statement right now.

Using AFPAnalytics contract projections:
Steven Stamkos 3 x $6.135
Anthony Duclair 3 x 4.313

That means the Lightning would be $6.23 million over the cap with a 21 man roster including Cirelli who makes $6.25 million. The only other player with a decent sized salary and lack of NMC/NTC is Brandon Hagel 8 x $6.5 million and he outproduces Cirelli and plays on the top line.

Cernak, Sheary, and Jeannot all have some NTC protection

A buyout of Sheary is probably a good idea since he is a 4th liner making $2 million for 2 years but you still have to replace him with at least a minimum contract and that would leave TBL at $5.625 over.

The Lightning could trade Cirelli and take back a player on an ELC to manage their cap.

So, what if that player was Matvei Michkov from Philly? You wouldn't do that if you were Tampa? Or a package like Conor Geekie + Maveric Lamoureux from Utah?

Hagel-Point-Kucherov
Duclair-Stamkos-Michkov
Jeannot-Paul-Eyssimont

Hedman-Raddysh
Sergachev-Cernak
McDonagh-Perbix

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Johansson
26 mai à 12 h 34
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
I'm not saying he sucks, but "nice contract" is not exactly a slam dunk statement right now.

Using AFPAnalytics contract projections:
Steven Stamkos 3 x $6.135
Anthony Duclair 3 x 4.313

That means the Lightning would be $6.23 million over the cap with a 21 man roster including Cirelli who makes $6.25 million. The only other player with a decent sized salary and lack of NMC/NTC is Brandon Hagel 8 x $6.5 million and he outproduces Cirelli and plays on the top line.

Cernak, Sheary, and Jeannot all have some NTC protection

A buyout of Sheary is probably a good idea since he is a 4th liner making $2 million for 2 years but you still have to replace him with at least a minimum contract and that would leave TBL at $5.625 over.

The Lightning could trade Cirelli and take back a player on an ELC to manage their cap.

So, what if that player was Matvei Michkov from Philly? You wouldn't do that if you were Tampa? Or a package like Conor Geekie + Maveric Lamoureux from Utah?

Hagel-Point-Kucherov
Duclair-Stamkos-Michkov
Jeannot-Paul-Eyssimont

Hedman-Raddysh
Sergachev-Cernak
McDonagh-Perbix

Vasilevskiy
Johansson


Yea PHI aint doing that nor Utah. If you were to trade for Cirelli teams would know its almost a cap out type move so it would = a lesser return

Probs would be like Dvorak's 1st + 2nd with maybe the chance for a prospect in the B range

TBL also have 0 need to buyout sheary. Like what EDM did with Yamamoto and Kostin they can just trade both Sheary and Jeannot to a team for FC. There will be teams with interest in doing that as many will need to fill roster spots.

Again though TBL have 0 need to trade Cirelli to keep Stamkos. He's 34 and the drop off could happen at any moment. Cirelli is 26 and a key PKer for them and signed to a nice 6 more year deal


The McDonagh trade tells me they are trying to lowball Stamkos and I think TBL is setting up to where Stamkos is either leaving in FA, gonna sign a long term 4.5m-5M x 5-6 year deal, or like Seabrook they might go after an LTIR contract like Webber to basically go over again

Duclair I think is gone as thats TBL thing with most of the depth once their deals done and need a raise bye. There are alot of guys they can sign this FA who can come cheap and have rebound potential to. Beau, Labanc, Patches, Vrana, etc.


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26 mai à 15 h 3
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12pm should mean 12pm puck drop. If you're gonna broadcast all the pregame bs you should let people know when puck drop is so they can skip it all.
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26 mai à 15 h 43
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Barclay Goodrow now has more goals in 13 playoff games than he did in 80 regular season games

Also 7 points in 13 playoff games compared to 12 points in 80 regular season games
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26 mai à 15 h 49
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Barclay Goodrow now has more goals in 13 playoff games than he did in 80 regular season games

Also 7 points in 13 playoff games compared to 12 points in 80 regular season games


He loves playoff hockey. Tampas two cups don't happen without him. Gourdrowman was a force.
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26 mai à 15 h 50
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Barclay Goodrow now has more goals in 13 playoff games than he did in 80 regular season games

Also 7 points in 13 playoff games compared to 12 points in 80 regular season games


That's why the Rangers signed him
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26 mai à 15 h 59
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This is the game I was expecting game 1.
26 mai à 16 h 1
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Quoting: Rangsey
This is the game I was expecting game 1.


4 goals in 17 shots lmao
26 mai à 16 h 21
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4 goals in 17 shots lmao


A little more open ended. Teams driving the net trying to get to the goal tenders.
26 mai à 17 h 0
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Hope you enjoy watching game 4 Trouba.
26 mai à 17 h 1
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Where would you put Switzerland in the hierarchy of hockey nations?

After the big-five…behind Czechs? Ahead of Slovaks and Germans?
26 mai à 17 h 1
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Why only 2 minutes???????????

I say this as a Rangers fan. That should be 5 and a game.
26 mai à 17 h 1
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Ok as a NYR fan Trouba needs to calm down that was dirty as heck. He needs to be stripped of the C and we need to get rid of him ASAP. I'm so done with his elbowing issues.
26 mai à 17 h 2
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why only 2 minutes???????????

I say this as a Rangers fan. That should be 5 and a game.


Yes, and this isn't the first time he's done something like this.
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26 mai à 17 h 3
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Quoting: Rangsey
Hope you enjoy watching game 4 Trouba.


And he'll 100% deserve it. He needs to be stripped of the C ASAP
26 mai à 17 h 5
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Barclay Goodrow now has more goals in 13 playoff games than he did in 80 regular season games

Also 7 points in 13 playoff games compared to 12 points in 80 regular season games


He's having some fun with it.
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26 mai à 17 h 5
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Barclay Goodrow now has more goals in 13 playoff games than he did in 80 regular season games

Also 7 points in 13 playoff games compared to 12 points in 80 regular season games


Add another goal for him
26 mai à 17 h 6
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Yes, and this isn't the first time he's done something like this.


It seems like he doesn’t know how to hit without throwing his elbow
26 mai à 17 h 10
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It seems like he doesn’t know how to hit without throwing his elbow


Worst part is. He absolutely does. He's the cleanest big hit in the league when he executes the way he should.

But if he's off, he's already out of position because he's committed to the hit. So he has to take some kind of contact so his opponent isn't getting in clean. That's where he runs into problems.
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26 mai à 17 h 26
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PK telling us exactly what should have happened regarding Captain Elbow. Messier’s silence indicates even he knows it was the wrong call. Captain elbow should not be playing next game.
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26 mai à 17 h 27
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Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast
And he'll 100% deserve it. He needs to be stripped of the C ASAP


It’ll never happen. He got the leadership award and he has the “body check” commercial. The league markets him. The same franchise employed Matt Rempe.
26 mai à 17 h 34
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And he'll 100% deserve it. He needs to be stripped of the C ASAP


Unless their new captain is Matt Rempe, I wouldn’t count on it.
26 mai à 17 h 36
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Off Barkov's glove...
NO GOAL
26 mai à 17 h 38
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Off Barkov's glove...
NO GOAL


Turns out it counts.
26 mai à 17 h 41
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Turns out it counts.


Only because the challenge is too risky.
Toronto review should be able to call it off for the glove!
 
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