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Necas and Zegras with comps

Créé par: jpsnow13
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 25 mars 2024
Publié: 15 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
87 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Hutson, Lane
2950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
SJS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Value based on ARZ>SJ trade
2.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Value based on the Dach trade+
3.
MTL
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Value base on the Debrincat deal+. 1st is Top 10 protected.
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Value based on Zadorov's trade. Any team.
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Based on Wennberg's trade value. Any team.
BOS
  1. Dvorak, Christian (2 225 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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2026
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2387 700 000 $87 644 583 $1 022 500 $4 997 500 $55 417 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
RFA
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C
RFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Hutson, Lane
950 000 $950 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
RFA
Équipe de réserve
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766 667 $766 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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15 avr. à 20 h 45
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Best comp for Necas is Fiala
Best for Zegras is less than Debrincat, more than Dach
Savard might get more than Zadorov
Best comp to go to 15 OA from 23 is Wings trading up to get Cossa
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15 avr. à 20 h 45
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Really bad comps for both players.
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15 avr. à 20 h 46
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Dach isn’t the right comparable for Zegras

Fiala would be another good comp you could use for Necas, but ADB works as well
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15 avr. à 21 h 17
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Best comp for Necas is Fiala
Best for Zegras is less than Debrincat, more than Dach
Savard might get more than Zadorov
Best comp to go to 15 OA from 23 is Wings trading up to get Cossa


Thanks for the suggestions, of course there can be more than one comp.

The result of using those would be pretty close though. Not gonna argue about adding /taking out a low pick here and there.
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15 avr. à 21 h 17
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Easy pass for Anaheim

Not what we want
15 avr. à 21 h 18
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Easy pass for Anaheim

Not what we want


Yeah we know you want a top 5 pick but it aint gonna happen.
15 avr. à 21 h 19
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Yeah we know you want a top 5 pick but it aint gonna happen.


No, we aren’t trading Z
15 avr. à 21 h 20
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
No, we aren’t trading Z


Find me a quote from your GM stating that.
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What are the conditions on the 25 Calgary 1st??
16 avr. à 0 h 14
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Quoting: NucksnOilers
What are the conditions on the 25 Calgary 1st??


Go look it up, it's insufferable. Long story short, it will lilelly be Florida 2025 1st instead, so 22nd +
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16 avr. à 0 h 44
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Deny shopping him doesnt means he wouldnt consider an offer LOL.

You wish the rumors were over, but they won't.


Even if he was considering trading Z, it would be for the right price, which my fellow Ducks fans and I have not yet seen on here. He's not going to give away one of our top offensive assets for scraps
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16 avr. à 2 h 31
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Thanks for making that such an easy offer for ANA to decline. Not even remotely interesting
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16 avr. à 7 h 25
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Even if he was considering trading Z, it would be for the right price, which my fellow Ducks fans and I have not yet seen on here. He's not going to give away one of our top offensive assets for scraps


Obviously 14th overall isnt scrap and makes it hard to take you seriously.

You just sound like all the Buffalo fans claimimg Eichel was worth 3x1st+, and Eichel was worth more than Zegras. At least he a center wink
16 avr. à 10 h 27
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Obviously 14th overall isnt scrap and makes it hard to take you seriously.

You just sound like all the Buffalo fans claimimg Eichel was worth 3x1st+, and Eichel was worth more than Zegras. At least he a center wink


Eichel: injured, unwilling to follow the medical advice of his team, publicly known rift between him and BUF, new team takes on the risk of him getting a surgery never performed on an active NHL player

Zegras: None of that. Still not fully healthy recovering from a broken ankle and playing point per game hockey as a.. center.

Is Zegras Eichel? Not even a little bit. But you’re comp to eichel is a bad one. It’s really as straightforward as why the heck ANA would trade their most offensively gifted forward for a bunch of mid value picks that are unlikely to land a single top 6 player. His comment may have been exaggerated, but this offer is terrible
16 avr. à 11 h 21
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Eichel: injured, unwilling to follow the medical advice of his team, publicly known rift between him and BUF, new team takes on the risk of him getting a surgery never performed on an active NHL player

Zegras: None of that. Still not fully healthy recovering from a broken ankle and playing point per game hockey as a.. center.

Is Zegras Eichel? Not even a little bit. But you’re comp to eichel is a bad one. It’s really as straightforward as why the heck ANA would trade their most offensively gifted forward for a bunch of mid value picks that are unlikely to land a single top 6 player. His comment may have been exaggerated, but this offer is terrible


Zegras is a defensive blackhole and everybody not in denial knows it. This is why Verbeek didnt signed him long term but on a capfriendly deal to make him a trade bait.
16 avr. à 15 h 26
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Zegras is a defensive blackhole and everybody not in denial knows it. This is why Verbeek didnt signed him long term but on a capfriendly deal to make him a trade bait.


Got it I didn’t realize we were here to play the speculation game based on nonsense. Did you know Caufield has hated living in MTL and has secretly been pushing to be traded to ANA to play with his best friend? 🤡

Zegras is 4th in +/- among ANA fwds, 5th in both relative corsi and fenwick. Not to mention he’s a 22/23 year old, he doesn’t need to be a defensive stud yet, or even at all. He’s our most creative offensive producer and the team is night and day different with/without him on the ice. Been producing a point per game since he’s returned, and he’s still not even 100%. If you don’t like data, check out the goal he scored on LA just the other night generating a solo goal off of his own takeaway.

Tons of players sign bridges for many different reasons. Nylander signed a bridge deal, where is he now? Is Jason Robertson about to get traded?

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but you should be a bit more familiar with a player before you comment so definitively, and maybe base your opinions on something other than media chatter and heresay. I don’t blame you for not watching ANA, we’re garbage. But your ignorance is being worn on your sleeve. You won’t find one ANA fan on this platform that wants to see Zegras go anywhere. There’s a reason for that
16 avr. à 15 h 43
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As other have mentioned, Debrincat is probably the closest comp for Zegras (slight edge in value going to Debrincat).

But I'll repeat this until pigs fly, ANA need players like Zegras in their lineup, it's a position (top 6 wingers) their own fans admit needs to improve. So if ANA is willing to move Zegras, from a positional weakness, there's something fishy going on... and something isn't adding up.
Habs should really look elsewhere if looking to add top 6 talent. Necas would be a good target.
 
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