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Créé par: nic_par
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 avr. 2024
Publié: 9 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lindstrom, Cayden
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Glass, Cody
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
3-way trade

NSH trades: Glass, TBL 2024 2nd, NSH 2025 1st
MTL trades: Matheson, Harris, VAN 2025 3rd
CAR trades: Necas

NSH gets: Matheson, VAN 2025 3rd
MTL gets: Necas, TBL 2nd 2024
CAR gets: Glass, NSH 1st 2025, WPG 1st 2024, Harris
NSH
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
2.
MTL
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
3-way trade

NSH trades: Glass, TBL 2024 2nd, NSH 2025 1st
MTL trades: Matheson, Harris, VAN 2025 3rd
CAR trades: Necas

NSH gets: Matheson, VAN 2025 3rd
MTL gets: Necas, TBL 2nd 2024
CAR gets: Glass, NSH 1st 2025, WPG 1st 2025, Harris
CAR
  1. Glass, Cody
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NSH)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 500 000 $76 438 750 $1 022 500 $3 977 500 $11 061 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
RFA
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835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
UFA
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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UFA - 2

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9 avr. à 10 h 22
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You're overpaying for Necas, and NSH wouldn't be interested in Matheson.
Joblow et villenash a aimé ceci.
9 avr. à 10 h 23
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Necas start with Maurice Richard, 25 palette of Molson Ex, the next 4 first round pick and Suzuki, Guhle and Slafkowsky. That the cost for a 60 point winger who is terrible defensively.
9 avr. à 10 h 25
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Josi magically gets injured for next season then Nashville maybe does this

I'd pay that price for Necas
nic_par a aimé ceci.
9 avr. à 10 h 52
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Quoting: gmgb
You're overpaying for Necas, and NSH wouldn't be interested in Matheson.


If I feel like I'm overpaying then it's probably close to fair. Just need to find a team that would be interested in Matheson and would trade something like 3rd line affordable forward + 1st +...

Quoting: Joblow
Necas start with Maurice Richard, 25 palette of Molson Ex, the next 4 first round pick and Suzuki, Guhle and Slafkowsky. That the cost for a 60 point winger who is terrible defensively.


I mean, it's probably something like
20th pick
25th pick
Bottom pair affordable D
3rd line forward

Don't think that's crazy for a young top-6 forward. If we go by quantity, we need to overpay somehow.
9 avr. à 11 h 47
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I don't think you need to include the Winnipeg first, but also if Nashville doesn't want Matheson then their 2025 1st is off the table, and neither Glass nor Harris move the needle. That would leave just the WPG first which by itself isn't enough, and also isn't really the right piece Carolina is looking for in a Necas trade.
9 avr. à 11 h 54
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Quoting: nic_par
If I feel like I'm overpaying then it's probably close to fair. Just need to find a team that would be interested in Matheson and would trade something like 3rd line affordable forward + 1st +...



I mean, it's probably something like
20th pick
25th pick
Bottom pair affordable D
3rd line forward

Don't think that's crazy for a young top-6 forward. If we go by quantity, we need to overpay somehow.


Personally i would acquire him, i don’t like the players. But in term of value, i don’t see him getting more then a mid 20’s pick and a b prospect. Especially with the fact he will ask for a significant raise.
9 avr. à 12 h 14
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Quoting: gmgb
You're overpaying for Necas, and NSH wouldn't be interested in Matheson.


Issue is, Canes have no interest in this package. Carolina's issue is scoring. Why would they then dump a 60-70 point producer for futures? To get Necas, there's going to need to be a top six piece coming back. I like Glass, he ain't that.
9 avr. à 12 h 15
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Quoting: Joblow
Necas start with Maurice Richard, 25 palette of Molson Ex, the next 4 first round pick and Suzuki, Guhle and Slafkowsky. That the cost for a 60 point winger who is terrible defensively.


That is so disingenuous... no the Hurricanes are saying that he's worth a young top-6 forward in return. He's been better defensively this year... there is nobody on the Hurricanes who's truly awful in his own zone
9 avr. à 12 h 29
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Quoting: seanrushton
That is so disingenuous... no the Hurricanes are saying that he's worth a young top-6 forward in return. He's been better defensively this year... there is nobody on the Hurricanes who's truly awful in his own zone


Necas is, despite having one of the highest offensive zone start rate around the league on one of the best goal differential team in the league. He still managed to be a minus players. He isn’t worth a young top 6 players at all. Necas is a bonified average middle 6 winger.
9 avr. à 12 h 30
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Nashville has as little interest in Matheson as Carolina would have. They already have Josi and McDonagh ahead on the depth charts, so they aren’t going to pay a premium for a LHD that would slot in on the 3rd pair. And without the Nashville portion of the trade, there isn’t a chance for Necas to be moved in this proposal.
9 avr. à 12 h 48
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Quoting: Joblow
Necas is, despite having one of the highest offensive zone start rate around the league on one of the best goal differential team in the league. He still managed to be a minus players. He isn’t worth a young top 6 players at all. Necas is a bonified average middle 6 winger.


Necas almost hit 30 goals last season and is gonna hit 25 this year... that isn't a middle-six 6 winger. Referencing +/- in the year of lord 2024 is a bold tactic. Of course he has a high offensive zone start rate... All Hurricanes forwards have a pretty high one except for the Staal line. He has the second-highest amount of goals at 5v5 for the Hurricanes
9 avr. à 13 h 15
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Quoting: seanrushton
Necas almost hit 30 goals last season and is gonna hit 25 this year... that isn't a middle-six 6 winger. Referencing +/- in the year of lord 2024 is a bold tactic. Of course he has a high offensive zone start rate... All Hurricanes forwards have a pretty high one except for the Staal line. He has the second-highest amount of goals at 5v5 for the Hurricanes


Necas is 94th in overall scoring, 105th ppg average. He have comparable number to the average middle 6 winger. Guy like Drouin, Toffoli, Moore, Coyle, Zacha, Tarasenko, Bjorkstrand, Monahan are all comparable. Necas 71 points was a anomaly last season due to injury he benefited from more first unit pp. he definitely not a top tier forward not even a top 70 forward in the league so that by definition rank him as a middle six forward.
9 avr. à 13 h 21
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Quoting: Joblow
Necas is 94th in overall scoring, 105th ppg average. He have comparable number to the average middle 6 winger. Guy like Drouin, Toffoli, Moore, Coyle, Zacha, Tarasenko, Bjorkstrand, Monahan are all comparable. Necas 71 points was a anomaly last season due to injury he benefited from more first unit pp. he definitely not a top tier forward not even a top 70 forward in the league so that by definition rank him as a middle six forward.


Since when are guys who put up 27-28 goals (adjusted for 82 games) a season not considered a top-6 forward?
He's probably in the 80-90 range which is still a top-6 forward.
9 avr. à 13 h 36
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Quoting: seanrushton
Since when are guys who put up 27-28 goals (adjusted for 82 games) a season not considered a top-6 forward?
He's probably in the 80-90 range which is still a top-6 forward.


Like i said earlier he is a bonified middle 6 forward. Nothing that justified the ask of a young top 6 forward.
9 avr. à 13 h 38
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Like i said earlier he is a bonified middle 6 forward.


80-90 Is a top-6 forward. 100-150 is more middle 6
9 avr. à 13 h 39
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Nashville isnt interested in Matheson. He isnt much much younger than Josi so it doesnt do us any good in the long term and we already have an expensive LHD group. Maybe if he was closer to 26 instead of 30 it would make more sense to as setting up a successor but when Josi ages out Matheson is going to be old as far as hockey goes too. So it makes no sense for Nashville
9 avr. à 13 h 39
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80-90 Is a top-6 forward. 100-150 is more middle 6


He is 105th in point per game
 
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