Personally, I would make that trade

Yeah id you want the habs to eat that contract, hes coming back for either Anderson or Gallagher, hes free with some cap retention or someone big comes back in return.

So heres a few deals for Dubois to the Habs

Dubois + Clarke for Barron

Dubois (2.5m retained) for Evans + 3rd

Dubois (1.5 retained) for Anderson + 3rd

Dubois + 2024 1st + 2025 1st for FC

Aint no way the Habs pay for that bum

Hes one of the worst contracts in the league. He either gets better on the Kings and they keep him or he continues to stink and he has a top 3 worst contract in the league

Welcome back after your long hiatus!

I disagree that this is the solution to all of our problems. To begin with, it's not unusual for a player moving to a new team to struggle for a while, even for a full season. Look, for example, at Ryan Graves, who was on my list of LhDs to go after before Blake re-signed Vladi Gavrikov. Second, you cannot accuse DuBois of playing badly despite his linemates -- he's been with second-rank players all season long. Has he spent the year between Quint Byfield and Adrian Kempe, I don't think that we would be having this discussion.

In my not-often-humble opinion, an upgrade either on DuBois's wing or in goal will carry us at least one round further in the 2025 playoffs than we will go this season.

PLD isn't going anywhere. Kings need him to bounce back to close out this season but by then his NMC kicks in. I'd like to see how he looks with an improvement in wingers before giving up completely.

Pass, the Kings will just keep holding on to PLD. He is trending the right way now under the new coach, if he can find another gear this contract wouldnt be a total albatross.

Value-wise Columbus accepts, but it really doesn't fill any needs for us. The right side is already packed, even with the Peeke deal (Jiricek, Severson, Gudbranson, and Boqvist).

We'd retain half on Provorov for a 1st straight-up, you get him at just over $2M and don't even lose a roster player.

Same, PLD without giving up a 1st seems like a worthy gamble. Fans on here were all over him a year ago, now that he has had a tough 1st year in LA they are scared to take a chance on him and hope he bounces back? He will be 26, signed through 32 so that's a good fit for the habs window of contention. St. Louis, Anderson, and Savard also know the player well.

I dont think the Habs are in need of a Contract to come back
PLD cause of the NMC kinda limits the Leverage in terms of moving him

If i was MTL i'd take him but similar to when we traded Subban it would be with you taking a slight hit like in Youth or Cap.
Something like Armia who's Healthy or Dvorak who's had Surgery and isnt a sure thing to start next year or 2024 at all.(so an LTIR guy for 1 year)
With like a 2nd round pick maybe , thats it.

No one has 8.5m cap to absorb him long term who's willing to pay LAK without them taking any cap back.
Your PLD market is basically MTL

I mean its not like you can play chicken with us
in 3 and a 1/2 months his NMC kicks in and you're stuck with him (likely having to take a loss to move him to a team he'll consider)

Pierre-Luc DuBois: roughly $321,000 per point
Brendan Gallagher: roughly $422,222 per point
Josh Anderson: roughly $444,444 per point

Although, to be fair, Gallagher plays about 2 minutes less per game than either Anderson or DuBois, who both average just under 16 minutes ToI

I'm really amused at Montreal's blindest homer calling someone else's players "one of the worst contracts in the League."

I'd only pay that if Turcotte comes back
3 1/2 months the NMC clause kicks in
Then they have to pay to move him to a team PLD would waive to like MTL
Why do them favors when 2 years from now they could be handing us their 1st to take him

Term, Term is why
Same thing happened to both Gally and Anderson
The closer they get to UFA status
The less people complain
Its always the Term they focus on and freak out about
Myself , with the cap going up i dont see a point in it
What we consider high today will be Mid tomorrow
Not really a big deal after next season

I think it's more likely that Dubois bounces back and is the 60+ point center with size that LA envisioned when they traded for him... in which case MTL would have missed there one and only opportunity to acquire him. In the scenario you put forth, if LA is still looking to move Dubois in 2 years there is not a chance MTL would be interested. It's now (this offseason) or never.

Even if lets say thats 100% True even though it would be a year earlier then his regular pace each other time he moved but i digress.
His NMC is still kicked in taking away his market completely.
He could not get Minutes and say MTL only
They'll try to move him but MTL has all the Leverage and could make them pay us to take the Cap

Players dont fight for full NMC long term so they can give teams short lists of 5-10 teams anyways completely negating the fact they have a NMC
At best you get 1-2 teams out of a player IF they're willing to move and you dont get a guy like Skinner who never would

MTL has all the leverage same as NSH did in the Subban trade because of the NMC
Which MTL can choose not to honor after the trade same as NSH did with Subban
So its not as big and scary as it sounds for MTL to take him on
But it doesnt erase the fact the NMC ties LAK hands

If Blake pays to move PLD he will be fired. He needs his coaching staff to have him bounce back. If he can end the season with improved defense and around 20 goals, there is no reason to move him. He's 25, he'll improve.

To the contrary: the Montreal supporter I'm referring to has stated in a simultaneous post that Anderson's cap hit is such a burden that it would be better to spend one of your 2025 firsts to get rid of him rather than buy him out. Note that we're not talking about the choice of keeping him or trading him with a first, or between keeping him and buying him out: your colleague insists that it would be better to spend a first to make him disappear than buy him out with reduced-value dollars in years 4, 5 and 6 while saving $8,833,333 against the cap in years 1, 2 and 3.

This, LA will not be paying for MTL to take Dubois that is a pipe dream. LA is probably experiencing some buyers regret (I thought it was on overpay at the time for a player they didn't even need), so if MTL presents a reasonable offer for LA to recoup some of their lost assets I could see a scenario where they might decide to cut their losses before his NMC kicks in, but they certainly won't be paying to get rid of him.

Spot on. Which now that PLDs NTC kicks in this summer, I think the boat has sailed and Hughes doesn't likely want to buy anything that could have locker room blowback. For LA I say with a rising cap and some improvement in wingers PLD won't look as awful as the league thinks.

It's going to be a patience game, and it's not so bad since the Kings have a few friendly contracts in Anderson, Danault, Fiala, Kempe, and Moore. They can afford him being a 20-goal scoring 3C for a few seasons if that truly is his ceiling, but he has shown flashes that he has more than that.

Fans see a down year and say that's the norm, GM's see a down year and know it's outlier

Not all MTL Fans are of the Same Quality sadly.
But i do believe one of us would say that though
Simple law of Averages as the bigger the fan base
The higher the volume of people you'll have with we'll call them "Unique" views on Business and Hockey

Those fans concerns dissapeared when the NHL decided the cap will go up what 5m next year? then another 5m the year after?
Andersons Contract concerns disappear for me as the close he gets to UFA status the easier he is to move if need be.
Gally im a little more worried about but if we move Anderson im back to not caring
If they werent putting the cap up maybe i'd be as bent out of shape as they are
But i understand the big picture thanks to all these different features on Capfriendly the 9/10 MTL fans sadly ignore

See Subban Trade
If MTL acquires him before July 1st
We dont have to honor the NMC at all so he'd be 100% unprotected going forward
Still a gamble for us but NMC would only kick in if he stays in LAK

Hell no. PLD for a 3rd at max

"He's young , he'll improve"
Said 2 other teams now
Reality is if he wasnt French and i didnt think his family would beat him senseless for having a lazy game
I wouldnt want him either

He’s the Kings problem, and there is little chance there is a trade out there that works. He’ll improve because he has, I’m watching him right now, he’s better than how he was playing earlier this season.

and he will be , thats how inconsistent players are
Anderson plays great for stretches too , enough to make it worth keeping him
But not enough to justify the cap hit knowing you could get two of him for the same cost

I remember fans insisting Subban was safe.
Waiting a year on that NMC was the kiss of death for PLD
If a team REALLY wants you they dont build an out into the contract

But again i'd rather you keep him as for better or worse when you call it'll be because we're a team he'd be willing to waive his full NMC for
thats if he doesnt take Skinner POV and completely shut down all trade talks period

If i was LAK though i'd be talking to OTT about Chabot as they're looking to move him before his M-NTC kicks in the same time.
It would give LAK the LD they wanted Gavrikov to be and OTT would get a player they can build on.
Neither of you have to honor the clauses meaning both of you can more them later on if you need to