Stefen Rosner should maybe consider what Ottawa might want

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Créé par: sensonfire

Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York

Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2024

Publié: 27 févr. 2024

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https://twitter.com/stefen_rosner/status/1762502737843908906

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/new-york-islanders-ottawa-senators-shane-pinto-josh-norris-jakob-chychrun

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NYI

Stefen Rosner of The Hockey News wants the Islanders to go trade for Shane Pinto, Josh Norris and Jakob Chychrun.

OTT

But he says absolutely nothing about what Ottawa might want.

Hmm ...

o_O

NYI

Here are some things that Ottawa might want from the Islanders:

First, the goalies:

OTT

Sorokin, Ilya

Détails additionnels:

Ottawa's goaltending is hot garbage and Semyon Varlamov can't be traded because he has a NTC.

So, Ottawa wants Ilya Sorokin.

NYI

Next, the defencemen:

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Dobson, Noah

Détails additionnels:

Ottawa doesn't have many quality right shot defensemen and Ryan Pulock and Scott Mayfield can't be traded because they have NTCs.

So, Ottawa wants Noah Dobson.

NYI

Now, the forwards:

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Holmström, Simon
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel (2 500 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Ottawa's bottom six is often made up of AHL fillers and cap space is hard to come by sometimes.

So, Ottawa might consider someone like Simon Holmstrom.

Or a hometown coming for JG Pageau only if the Islanders retain half of Pageau's salary.

NYI

And of course, picks.

Everybody loves picks !

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Détails additionnels:

If Stefen Rosner wants Pinto, Norris or Chychrun, he should have the guts to make an offer for each of them.

But he won't ...

No guts, no glory!

Rachats de contrats

Rick DiPietro: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jean-Gabriel Pageau: 2 500 000 $ (50%)

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	Cizikas, Casey 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C UFA - 4

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Romanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG RFA - 2		Varlamov, Semyon 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G NTC UFA - 4
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27 févr. à 13 h 13

Badgm91

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Forwards options sounds pretty cool for us, other ones not so much. Dobson and Sorokin aren't going anywhere unless a franchise level talent is coming back

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27 févr. à 13 h 15

csick

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Pinto isn’t going anywhere . Norris might for the right deal. Chychrun is available

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27 févr. à 13 h 21

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

Pinto isn’t going anywhere . Norris might for the right deal. Chychrun is available

What would a Norris deal look like in your opinion

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27 févr. à 13 h 25

csick

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

What would a Norris deal look like in your opinion

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

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27 févr. à 13 h 28

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

27 févr. à 13 h 29

Rags21

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Ithe problem with the islanders is that they don’t have many good assets worth trading and they don’t have cap

So if they want to upgrade at forward, the 1st and JGP would have to be moved. Not a lot of teams want JGP at full cap

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27 févr. à 13 h 32

csick

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

Not Mayfield absolutely not

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27 févr. à 13 h 33

Hudsonfaschingisdad

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Quoting: csick

Not Mayfield absolutely not

Just kidding with that proposal

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27 févr. à 13 h 41

Db1899

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Pinto , Norris and chychrun don’t move the needle for a player like Dobson

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27 févr. à 13 h 45

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LongtimeLeafsufferer

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For sure the Sens (or any team) looks at Sorokin's 8.25m X 8 years starting this summer at age 29 as a bargain.

27 févr. à 13 h 51

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Kyle_Okposo_Lover

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Stefen Rosner is a f-----g idiot lol no Islander fan gives a crap at what he says.

Isles will retain on Pageau but I imagine it wouldnt be more than 1.5 mil retention. Pageau for 3.5 compared to 5 is way different

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27 févr. à 14 h 5

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NDoody

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Quoting: csick

I only see Ottawa moving Norris for a similar winger who’s not soft or a RD / great goalie.

Probably Goalie and RD are the biggest needs

I'd look into a trade that involves Norris and Dobson very seriously.

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27 févr. à 14 h 33

#13

ordinarymutant

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Quoting: NDoody

I'd look into a trade that involves Norris and Dobson very seriously.

there isn't a trade package that ottawa could put together that would get them noah dobson

27 févr. à 15 h 43

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: Hudsonfaschingisdad

So a Scott mayfield, Jakob skarek and a 3rd round pick get it done?

An RHD who doesn't stink

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27 févr. à 16 h 7

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csick

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Quoting: Db1899

Pinto , Norris and chychrun don’t move the needle for a player like Dobson

I don’t think Dobson is what we need anyways

27 févr. à 16 h 8

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csick

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Quoting: ordinarymutant

there isn't a trade package that ottawa could put together that would get them noah dobson

Stutzle and possibly Tkachuk are more valuable . Also I wouldn’t move Sanderson for Dobson either

27 févr. à 20 h 42

#17

Db1899

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think Dobson is what we need anyways

Every team needs a RD like Dobson

27 févr. à 20 h 43

#18

csick

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Quoting: Db1899

Every team needs a RD like Dobson

Chabot/Chychrun-Dobson might be elite at letting the other team score

27 févr. à 20 h 48

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Db1899

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Quoting: csick

Chabot/Chychrun-Dobson might be elite at letting the other team score

Dobson doesn’t have to play much defense because he tilts the ice offensively and his defense isn’t an issue.

27 févr. à 20 h 48

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

An RHD who doesn't stink

i have it on good authority that Scott Mayfield showers very regularly and is a frequent user of gel anti-perspirants

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