From NYR perspective we would somehow find away to move either Zibanejad or Trocheck back to VAN which will be blocked by NMC. I don't see established wingers be moved since this is already the main issue in NYR. So all NYR can offer is not going to be enough from VAN perspective. And NYR not going to have the money to resign Petty either. So a waste of everyone's time to even entertain that thought.

From Pitt how about Jake for Petey

Palat, 2024 n 2025 1st, Hamilton, holtz, mercer for Quinn n petey

Not even close. Come back for Quinn in 2027.

Frost, Brink, Panthers 2024 first, Ducks 2025 second.

Well good luck trading him for something when he wants 12.5 mill minimum

For Quinn and Petey you’d have to give up Hischier and Nemec++

NYR: 2025 and 2026 1st round picks, Chytil, Goodrow, Sykora (solid forward prospect), Lindbolm (goalie prospect).

Chytil's LTIR provides cover for further deadline maneuvers, while a more experienced Goodrow gives playoff punch to your high-skilled team. Though DiPietro looks like a future #1, widening the pool of inhouse goaltending with Lindbolm makes for great competition at the AHL level. Sykora is untested, but when risen to second line duties in the AHL, was on a hot point streak on two occasions.

Petey has wanted the Broadway stage and this feels like the iron-hot moment all sides can meet in the middle.

That is no way near enough. Sorry.

This is like trying to sell ice to an Eskimo

We don’t have the cap space upon trading everything for him.

For arguments sake:
Trocheck
Othmann, may even have to be Perrault
1st
2nd

For the flyers something like York, Frost, Brink and our 1st this year. Would that get it done? Canucks get a top-pairing D, #2 center behind miller, a likely future top-six winger and a mid-round first.

Matheson
Roy OR Beck(our top 2 A ranked forwards)
1st in 2025 CGY
2nd in 2024 COL

But we'd take back Garlands capdump if you'd take Ylonen and an additional 2nd over Roy or Beck as on our builds timeline they're kinda pieces that fit
That said if Pettersson coming in i suppose the depth charts landscape will change so it wont really matter in hindsight

Now if thats Enough MTL has options
We can either re-sign him, Hope someones dumb enough offer sheet him lol or Trade his rights in the summer if we cant work it out.
I think he fits and we sign him breaking with our no one makes more then the Captain Mantra that he, Caufield and Dach were all talking about this summer.
But i think if you can get Elias to sign for lets say 9.5m with full NMC the first 3 years of how ever long the term is and it would make sense for all involved.

I think Ideally he signs a 4-5 year deal and this contract will never be hard to move.
But im sure there will still be MTL fans saying so after i post this.
I think to get our first 100pts player in like 40 years? that we'd be more then happy to Welcome Elias to MTL

Doesn't work cap wise..

We'd basically be offering Mika (who alone accounts for like 3 1sts), Othmann and a 2nd.

But then Mika rejects it.

It likely get's blocked by Trochecks NMC.

The problem with NYR is that: 1) both Zib + Trocheck have NMCs, and 2) Chytil's health. If one of them were to waive a NMC, it'd be a different story.

It would essentially go like this for NYR:

Choose 1 of: Zib (if waived), Trocheck (if waived), Chytil (if chytil is picked, Goodrow must be included, upgrade the 2024 2nd to a 1st rounder below and upgrade from choice of 3 to choice of 4)
Choose 1 of: Miller, Lindgren
Choose 2 of: Kakko, Sykora, Berard
Choose 3 of: 2025 1st, 2024 2nd, Dylan Garand, Robertson, Jones (2024 1st may be omitted because apparently Dolan wants to draft at the Sphere)


Schneider could potentially be in the Miller/Lindgren group -- but it likely depends on which center they take AND if they take Kakko.

Perreault is a non-starter for NYR. In a smaller swap sure, but in terms of a package it would be too much for NYR to pay.
Othmann may be the player that pushes the deal through, but he's been off limits (so far) in trades and I'm not sure that changes. It'll again likely depend on the size of the package vancouver wants.

IF the package Vancouver wants seems like too much for NYR, they likely wait and see what happens with arbitration. If it's player elected, Petey could potentially become a UFA if Vancouver does not want to meet the award (unlikely). If it's a 1 year deal, NYR may rather overpay when he becomes a UFA next year than to give up a truck of assets to obtain.

The most realistic package Vancouver should really expect teams to give up is similar to what Florida gave up for Tkachuck (top line replacement player, top 4 defenseman, meh prospect, 1st). I will admit this package was a little light but it was also due to Tkachuk only willing to sign with a few teams. Maybe throw in an extra 2nd (or conditional 1st) / prospect (Jones, Berard, Sykora quality), or even Kakko for good measure.

Imagine if I cared.

Thus, I'll stick with mine, since it was based on the Eichel deal. If it was more expansive, treating Petey more like Matthews (as he should be), I might go bigger.

We can't afford yours... Only way you afford Petey is basically sending back at least 9 mil of cap.

Then add Ian Cole ($3.25m).

The other direction...

Rangers can't afford it unless they're moving Mika or Trouba.

They both have NMC's.

No I don't. My imagination is not that rich

TK, Florida 1st, Flyers 2025 1st, Anaheim 2025 2nd

Columbus offers lottery protected 2024 first, Kent Johnson, and Corson Ceulemans as a base. Wouldn't even demand top-10 protection. There would be other moving parts, of course, which would be negotiable. But I think Allvin would find 4OA and KJ very hard to turn down.

Of course, Jackets shouldn't do this, nor should Vancouver move him. But it's fun to talk about.

Firstly, that’s not close to enough

Second, Garland is not a cap dump

I think it would still need one of your better prospects, the Florida 1st is virtually a 2nd.

I think there needs to be another prospect added, but it’s close!