Quoting: Campabee
Again you can't be serious, you have the 3rd OVA pick in the upcoming draft (at worst it drops to 5th) that means you are getting one of Celebrini, Demidov, Eiserman, Levshunov or Lindstrom (literally filling one of the 2 holes you mentioned) add to it 3 more 1sts you can either draft with or combine together for another top 10-15 pick in this draft or even better for the Ducks, package 1 of those 1sts with Barron to send to another team for a forward and select Levshunov with the 3rd pick. The options are quite literally limitless if you are getting 4 1st round picks worth of value for a guy who's value tops out at about a 1st + 2nd + 3rd maybe 2 1sts and a 3rd. As I previously said though and maybe I wasn't clear enough, value wise this is a serious overpayment, fit wise probably not acceptable to include Barron but you sure as hell aren't getting a former 1st over all pick 2 years removed or the top RHD prospect from the last draft (for those who say a Zegras trade starts with Slaf or Reinbacher +) for a 60 ish point forward whose own team doesn't believe he is a top 6 center.
I gotta love how you completely dodged answering the analogy directly. Yes, 3OA will address 1 of 2 needs. But then by moving Z for neither, we’re right back where we started with 2 holes
Could your trade offer maybe be turned into something to address those needs? Sure. But if this dude wanted real world feedback on the trade, this was it. This isn’t Chel. You don’t trade Z for a package you hope to then turn into someone like.. Z. Also, you went straight back to arguing about value when I literally said ‘the issue isn’t about value”. It can’t be that crazy of a concept that teams have needs they’re trying to fill, so even if value is reasonable for a trade, if it doesn’t address a need, it just doesn’t make sense. I’m not sure how to say it more simply
Also, Z absolutely is top 6 center material. We’re just spoiled with Leo Carlsson and Mason McTavish, so he makes much more sense on the wing.
I’m not sure what your end goal here is, but if you want to know ANA perspective on Z, it’s that we love him and he fills a need for us in the top 6 and he’s RFA controlled on a deal we are happy with. If someone wants to trade for him, that offer will both 1) have to have enough value to be worthwhile, 2) provide a return we actually need or hell no. Our hands aren’t tied here, and we really like the player. This ain’t it, no matter how many more 3rd line quality assets get added to it. I wish you well