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Créé par: Taz

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2024

Publié: 2 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Transactions

MTL

Monahan, Sean

WPG

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

Conditionnal 3rd

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	76 185 416 $	1 170 000 $	3 992 500 $	7 314 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
		Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2		Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

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#26

MisstheWhalers

Rejoint: janv. 2019

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

who are you referring to?

These Habs fans who can't differentiate between someone saying what you think someone is worth and what you think they could get for said player.

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#27

MisstheWhalers

Rejoint: janv. 2019

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Quoting: Birtle34

Chevy saw little 2.0 and had to have

Sorry, I don't get what you mean?

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#28

Birtle34

Bandwagon fairweathe

Rejoint: juin 2018

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Sorry, I don't get what you mean?

Just reminds me a ton of little, hopefully doesn’t end the same

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#29

Bcarlo25

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

It's quite literally not a subjective opinion once the trade is made. Opinion is what you think will happen, when that opinion gets factually proven wrong, then you're just wrong and it's okay to be wrong sometimes

ohhhh were back to the literally guy!

it is. i guess we have to go through a vocabulary lesson today.

Did he get a first round pick? yes
was he worth a first round pick? unsure. Monahan could wind up winning the conn smythe en route to a cup and absolutely be worth a first round pick.

He might not fit, and be a healthy scratch. absolutely not worth it.

If you google "define: worth," you might get some info that helps you in this discussion. literally

sheesh.

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#30

jgimp69

Jet69

Rejoint: janv. 2018

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Quoting: Camper27

Congrats, on getting what you received from the Jets.

Hopefully, Monahan brings what we are hopeful for a "productive 2C" going forward. The cost that was paid was a hefty one, probably driven upward by the price paid in the Lindholm deal the other day. I still have concerns about his injury history over the last couple years. As a final comment, still believe that a current year mid second round pick (45 - 52) would have been a fair return for this trade.

Many of the Mtl supporters called it as it played out. Congrats!!!!

Yeah, I think most fans on both sides knew how this was going to play out. It’s unfortunate the extremes on both sides masked the reality,
Habs fans thinking a 1st and a top prospect with Jets fans a 3rd. Realistically speaking, an inconsequential late 1st has always been the going rate at the deadline, always has been.
Hope it works out for both teams.

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#31

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Rejoint: juill. 2017

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

If you buy a $100 worth of groceries then that's their value, you stating he isn't worth a 1st and then having a team literally pay a 1st for him proves his value. Not that hard of a concept, things are worth what people pay for them, hence what their value is.

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#32

Bcarlo25

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

it literally seems like you literally don't know the literal definition of the word worth.

that's sad. actually, hold on. that's not fair. is french your first language? if so, i retract.

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#33

BorisBagel

Boris Bagel

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Habs got robbed, Monahan was definitely worth an unprotected 1st and a conditional 2nd

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#34

Commonsense27

Rejoint: janv. 2017

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Not worth a first.is debatable, but many said "no chance they get a first" lol. Love it

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#35

phillyjabroni

Rejoint: mars 2017

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Quoting: Taz

No matter if he really is worth or not, fact is that everyone that did Monahan vs 1st proposals where right, and everyone complaining about it were wrong.
It is always the same, players are overpaid at TDL, and much capfriendly users don't understand that.

I think (and maybe it was just my experience), but the logic on why they were going to get a 1st wasn't really why they got a 1st. A lot of it was based on how he was on a 60 point pace and how he would be a powerplay threat for teams like Colorado, even though his 5v5 stats aren't superb or would be on COL's top powerplay. I also saw some trades were it was Turcotte + 2nd or Monahan + for Byram

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#36

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

it literally seems like you literally don't know the literal definition of the word worth.

that's sad. actually, hold on. that's not fair. is french your first language? if so, i retract.

Must be nice to live in backwards land, enjoy being wrong on this one and probably wrong many more times

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#37

Bcarlo25

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Must be nice to live in backwards land, enjoy being wrong on this one and probably wrong many more times

its not my fault you don't know what a five letter word means.

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#38

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Rejoint: juill. 2017

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

its not my fault you don't know what a five letter word means.

Not my fault you can't admit you were wrong, it's okay though lil guy one day you may learn from your mistakes

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#39

Bcarlo25

Rejoint: mai 2018

Messages: 21,271

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Not my fault you can't admit you were wrong, it's okay though lil guy one day you may learn from your mistakes

and maybe one day you'll learn english!

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