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Forum: Armchair-GM23 mars à 13 h 6

Sujet: Competitive

I'm sorry but if you're not a cup contender I think you seriously need to think about the possibility of Connor Bedard imo. Habs especially

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 17 h 27

Sujet: Thank You Tampa

Yes Lehkonen in terms of how good he is, is somewhat comparable to Hagel but the contract of Hagel is why Tampa gave up so much. Lehkonen probably only gets a first on Monday. If they don't then they keep him

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 20 h 41

Sujet: Leafs should not make any moves

Giordano will be cheaper though. He comes with a biggee cap and recency bias gives Chiarot more market value because his playoff performances

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 20 h 31

Sujet: What a steal

I honestly thought they would get a first, wasn't expecting more pieces on top of the first. Big win for Hughes. Although I think Chiarot will be a beast for Florida in the playoffs

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 20 h 24

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>Clearly not getting it after that Manson return</div></div>

Clearly? Lol

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 20 h 23

Sujet: Ben Chiarot - Official

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Laughing at Florida probably. At least I am.

First Zito L for a while now.</div></div>

Not a L until the results of these playoffs. Chiarot is a beast in the playoffs if you actually watch the games. If they go on a run its not a L. I do agree he wasnt worth this much right now though. I thought they might just get a first

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 20 h 19

Sujet: Ben Chiarot - Official

They get the first round pick back lol. Where all the haters at now?

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 21 h 25

Sujet: what i think a chiarot trade looks like now after the manson trade

Still with the Chiarot hate lol. Can we just all agree to have the argument after the deadline? Imo Chiarot is better and will get a better return. But we will see after Monday.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 15 h 13

Sujet: Can take on the whole contract now

Isnt Landy coming back before the playoffs?

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 15 h 5

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>lol its a 12 team no trade list so they had 20 they can pick from</div></div>

You don't know how many of the 20 were in the market for him.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 20 h 21

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>hes going to be a UFA at the end of the year but alright bud</div></div>

I didn't say he wasn't going to be a ufa? Don't forget Manson also has a modified ntc. Colorado might have been one of the few inside that ntc that actually wanted Manson. Chiarot has no say in where he gets dealt. Plus with half retained Chiarot will be a tad cheaper on the cap. Just a couple other factors to consider

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 19 h 47

Sujet: Hello there

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tarlam01</b></div><div>Benning has been really good for Denver tbh. near PPGM and +28. He's also a RHD[/quote

Stats for sure, but not too many 5'9" D men (who aren't elite) make a permanent home in the NHL.</div></div>

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 19 h 26

Sujet: Hello there

The prospect needs to be better in this package imo.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 19 h 19

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tarlam01</b></div><div>Helleson is worth a 1st alone, dunno what you're trying to say here.</div></div>

Read the thread bud. And I definitely don't think Helleson is a worth a first. But definitely better than AdamFox thinks above

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 19 h 3

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>The 2nd is already going to be 58-64 and helleson most likely returning for a 4th year of college he doesn't have much value at all</div></div>

Helleson as a right shot D and the way he has played this year makes him worth his draft stock. Add in another 2nd and it gets you close to a late first rounder. Chiarot has more value than Manson, I say imo but I honestly don't think its a debate.

Either way I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a first in return or a 2nd and good prospect. We will see Monday. Someone will be wrong in this debate lol

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 18 h 46

Sujet: trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>Clearly not getting it after that Manson return</div></div>

I wouldn't say clearly. Helleson and a 2nd is very close to the equalivant to a late first round pick. Opinions vary but imo Chiarot has a tad more value right now via trade. Still expecting a first but a return like this wouldn't be far off

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 22 h 5

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LukaTAG</b></div><div>Once again, he was dog**** in the playoffs. Not sure how this is hard for you to understand lmfao. He's not a shutdown guy by any means. Being a shutdown guy means you have to actually be good on defense.</div></div>

Please try watching some playoff hockey. I know you're not use to it with you're own team but just try. He is a stud in the playoffs plain and simple. Passes every eye test. And his advance analytics in the playoffs are actaully good lol

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 22 h 2

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>so you're saying that foligno was worth a 1st? Savard too? Erat was worth forsberg? Damn, those GM's know more than me so clearly those trades that were obviously bad at the time were not!</div></div>

Current market value they know a lot more than you. None of those trades were deemed as bad at the time. And Savard was a key piece to the Lightnings success. He is a similar player (not as good) to Chiarot, so thats a bad example

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 56

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>nah, they dont like big defencemen that are slow as molasses with no mobility who cant defend a rush or a cycle and needs his partner and C to cover all the pass threats and the goalie to stop every high danger scoring chance he lets by him because he's so focused on crosschecking dudes.</div></div>

I guess you didn't watch tonights game? Lol. Have a goodnight buddy

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 55

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LukaTAG</b></div><div>Watched a playoff game. He cross-checked people in front of the net. Other than that, he was dog****.

If he gets a first or a 2nd and a prospect, I feel really bad to whichever team gets him.</div></div>

I think nhl general managers understand values and playoff performances a lot better than you. If only the leafs had someone that could clear the front of the net and play agaisnt the other teams top lines maybe, just maybe they could have some playoff success. Its hard to outscore your problems in the playoffs fyi

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 52

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>no, you see i want the leafs to add good defencemen, which is what dubas wants too. He dont want bad defenders like chariot</div></div>

Ya they don't like big defensemen that can play both sides, clear the front of the net, play agaisnt the other teams top line and has a recent history of playing good in the playoffs lol

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 50

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LukaTAG</b></div><div>No? I never quoted plus minus. I said he was a net negative. As in he did more bad than good for the Canadiens in the post season.

Stop sucking Chiarot's dick, he's a 5/6 or worse by every available metric and a terrible shutdown D. Face it, you're gonna get a 3rd for him by some contending team.</div></div>

Ok, you definetly have no idea whats going on lol. Try watching a playoff game bud.

Every analyst out there is saying he is getting a first lol. I'm more in the camp that his true value is a 2nd and prospect but because how good he is in the playoffs and the fact that half the league have called about him he is definetly getting a first in return.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 45

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>because he wouldnt. he is just a bad player by literally, and i mean literally every metric.</div></div>

You better hope Dubas has a different feeling than you. Zero chance, and I mean zero chance the leafs can beat the lightning or Panthers with that current D.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 43

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LukaTAG</b></div><div>Chiarot was a net negative in the playoffs as well lol, also by every available metric. Sorry, try again</div></div>

Plus minus is your tool for valueing players? Lol. Wow. That just gave me some insight to how you think. Do you watch hockey? You do realize he is a shut down D that usually goes agaisnt the other teams best players? Lol. He literally just went agaisnt a top three line in the league tonight. He is much more valueable then every D on the leafs not named Reilly in the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 21 h 37

Sujet: we all know this might happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>habs fans just cant admit that a player of theirs is bad</div></div>

I think Gallagher is bad. Regular season Price and Weber were horrible. Petry has been awful this year (other than the last 4).

Happy?

Chiarot has been decent considering he is playing top pairing minutes on a team that has no motivation. It just confuses me when leaf fans can't admit that he would help them. Why are they so scared to admit that?

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