Guhle, Matheson, 1st, Dach, Newhook, Slaf, Montembault, Roy.

If none of those pieces are included. Holtz is not available

That’s awful for the devils

Does Xhekaj hit?

Could be useful in Utica since the depth there has been stripped

Allen for a 6th rder would work Devils are in the market. Dont trade Xhekaj please. Kovacevic for a 6th at best. Monahan for a 1st is very likely with the Chytil news prob have to throw Norlinder to make it work

So Matheson for Holtz 1 for 1. Maybe, but I would rather get Cowan and a first/second from Toronto

Yeah no. Matheson+1st for Holtz+3rd.

Or Matheson 50% retained for Holtz

If Toronto is dumb enough to pay that for Matheson they can go ahead

Do you really think Holtz is a superstar or something? He doesn’t even have a .500 ppg. He isn’t good defensively. He hasn’t been good for three years and was labelled as a bust until this season. He isn’t worth the equivalent of 2 first and 2 second. His value is a bit more than what Newhook got, so a late first, a second and a third

Holtz has 11 goals 21 points 5v5 in 500 minutes. That would rank 1st among Montreal forwards (highest of 7 goals and 18 assists from different players). He has 2 years left on his ELC.

And he has 2 pp pts and he is **** defensively. He would be 7th on the habs, equal to JOSH ANDERSON and TANNER PEARSON.

Even his own coach doesn’t like him. It tells a lot about his defensive play

Canes pass.

He only has 2 PP Points because he doesn’t play on the Devils top PP because they have a lot of great forward options. He’d play on Montreals PP1 seeing as they don’t have nearly as many skilled forwards

You keep Allen, we don't want him

Holtz still would rank 2nd on montreal in all strengths points/60 behind only caufield.

Caufield is awful defensively too. and costs 7 mill more than holtz. what's he worth?
Slafkovsky is also very bad defensively. Less points than Holtz too.

Josh anderson has 13 total points, Pearson has 8. Even considering the 150 minutes theyve gotten on the power play, they still have less points than Holtz combined

Bro what are you saying. Slafkovsky is one of the best player defensively on the team.

Caufield has also pretty underrated defensive metrics this season.

Holtz is just plain bad and easily replaceable on a lot of teams

Holtz is just an average 50 pts sniper who can’t play defense

Montreal can't seem to easily replace his even strength scoring, or scoring in general bc at 21 he's better than the rest of their team at it.

Hughes, Meier and Hischier all got injured. If Holtz is that good, why didn’t he replace them on the top unit?

But the majority of teams can replace a 50 pts sniper who isn’t good defensively. Even his oen coach find him replaceable.

Only thing going for him is his 5v5 production…

Because the team still had Bratt Toffoli Hughes Mercer and Palat Hamilton and Haula

Also there was only 1 game where all 3 were out. Holtz scored in that game

5v5 scoring is the hardest thing to find. Montreal can't find it.

Should the devils change their top 6 power play (even with a pretty horrific system they run and all the injuries to throw off chemistry) to be more like the habs 19th ranked power play?

Hamilton is injured…

So your saying a goal scorer can’t beat Palat, Haula and a struggling Mercer…

Would you say a guy with 24 even strenght pts is a superstar?

5v5 scoring isn’t hard to find. There is plenty of players with lot of 5v5 pts

"Struggling" Mercer would rank tied for 1st among montreal forwards in 5v5 points.

Hamilton was healthy for the 1 game that Jack Meier and Hischier missed.

It was Luke as QB
Bratt at right side sniper
Palat trying to fill the Hughes role as another QB (Palat has a decade as a quality power play guy)
Toffoli netfront
Haula to win the opening faceoff and grind.

Mercer, Holtz, and Dougie Hamilton were all left off PP1 for 1 game. Is dougie hamilton a bad power play guy too?

So Holtz can’t beat out Palat and Haula for pp time. Don’t tell me he is valuable on pp

Then why doesn't montreal have any of them?

Holtz ranks 29th in the league in 5v5 points/60. Between Mitch Marner and Jake Guentzel

19th in 5v5 goals/60. Right behind kyle connor and connor bedard