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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2024
Publié: 23 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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MTL
  1. Meyers, Ben
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
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I did this trade a lot and I’m sticking with it
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MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
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MTL
  1. Chmelevski, Alexander [Liste de réserve]
SJS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
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23 janv. à 18 h 56
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I think that’s extremely fair for Colorado I love it
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23 janv. à 18 h 58
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I think these are close to fair. Normally I wouldn't comment if I believed that but you called us out.
23 janv. à 19 h 0
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Quoting: Victor24
I think these are close to fair. Normally I wouldn't comment if I believed that but you called us out.

Sorry it’s just that when it’s realistic nobody comments and when it’s unrealistic I’m being called out so yeah 😅
23 janv. à 19 h 4
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Sorry it’s just that when it’s realistic nobody comments and when it’s unrealistic I’m being called out so yeah 😅


I try to call out everyone. It's why I'm so loved on this site. grin
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23 janv. à 19 h 4
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Sorry it’s just that when it’s realistic nobody comments and when it’s unrealistic I’m being called out so yeah 😅


I try to call out everyone. It's why I'm so loved on this site. grin

Edit: Don't know why this double posted...
23 janv. à 19 h 7
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I try to call out everyone. It's why I'm so loved on this site. grin


You do what you do best my man!
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23 janv. à 19 h 13
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MTL counters with Simmoneau and a 2nd for Lehkonen
We'll re-sign Monahan and keep him over take no return
Thats what a 2026 2nd is to us at this point
Meyers is insult to injury, couldnt even pick a drafted player just an undrafted bum we got enough of
23 janv. à 19 h 17
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That's probably reasonable as far as value for Monahan as the 2nd is a couple of years out. He still isn't a good fit for Colorado stylistically though so the Avs still pass.
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Quoting: Billy316
MTL counters with Simmoneau and a 2nd for Lehkonen
We'll re-sign Monahan and keep him over take no return
Thats what a 2026 2nd is to us at this point
Meyers is insult to injury, couldnt even pick a drafted player just an undrafted bum we got enough of


I mean we won’t get a first for him. We won’t get an amazing prospect as well so why not get a guy that could become a solid fourth liner
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That's probably reasonable as far as value for Monahan as the 2nd is a couple of years out. He still isn't a good fit for Colorado stylistically though so the Avs still pass.


He’s more of a plan B or C for avs no doubt. But Lindholm is way too pricey for the avs
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23 janv. à 19 h 27
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That's probably reasonable as far as value for Monahan as the 2nd is a couple of years out. He still isn't a good fit for Colorado stylistically though so the Avs still pass.


As a plan B or C I think it’s fine. Play him as a 3rd liner, see if Colton can take tougher minutes.

Meyers came into the league with a lot of hype, but he’s in a weird spot for Colorado. After this next game, he loses waiver exemption. I think it’s fair to see him go to a bad team where he can get some more ice time without fear of being waived.
23 janv. à 19 h 33
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Quoting: Minimont
I mean we won’t get a first for him. We won’t get an amazing prospect as well so why not get a guy that could become a solid fourth liner


Literally every insider disagree's . .
Trade Deadline is Supply vs Demand
Teams people thought would Sell who have Centers
They are still 4-6 points out of a Wildcard spot and buying now.

Its supply vs Demand and we have Supply
Its like this every TDL. I mean was Pleakanec worth a 2nd and 2 prospects in his career worst year? Nope
We still got it and turned that deal into Lane Hutson in the long run

Was Hanzal worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick coming off LTIR at the TDL just to return to it 2 months later? Nope

The **** about Supply vs Demand when a playoff race is close is sometimes you over pay for a Tomas Tatar just to Bench him so PIT cant have him for their push.
Gm's go to War at the TDL and how they do defines the next 12 months for them in many's eyes as the fall out from it is huge.
Bergavin chose not to add so many times wasting the career of Carey Price. So he's been passed over for many GM jobs since as he's not trusted to compete or even rebuild anymore

Too many bad TDL's screwed him for years to come despite all the good trades the bad signings and lack of added depth on his runs proved he didnt have what it takes.
That said Hughes doesnt have the same issues with make the big trades and getting the maximum return
I mean he got a 1st for Ben Chairot because he knew how the market worked. He had the Supply and held out
He got a great return for doing so that was far more then anyone on this site would admit he was worth before the Trade was made.
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Literally every insider disagree's . .
Trade Deadline is Supply vs Demand
Teams people thought would Sell who have Centers
They are still 4-6 points out of a Wildcard spot and buying now.

Its supply vs Demand and we have Supply
Its like this every TDL. I mean was Pleakanec worth a 2nd and 2 prospects in his career worst year? Nope
We still got it and turned that deal into Lane Hutson in the long run

Was Hanzal worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick coming off LTIR at the TDL just to return to it 2 months later? Nope

The **** about Supply vs Demand when a playoff race is close is sometimes you over pay for a Tomas Tatar just to Bench him so PIT cant have him for their push.
Gm's go to War at the TDL and how they do defines the next 12 months for them in many's eyes as the fall out from it is huge.
Bergavin chose not to add so many times wasting the career of Carey Price. So he's been passed over for many GM jobs since as he's not trusted to compete or even rebuild anymore

Too many bad TDL's screwed him for years to come despite all the good trades the bad signings and lack of added depth on his runs proved he didnt have what it takes.
That said Hughes doesnt have the same issues with make the big trades and getting the maximum return
I mean he got a 1st for Ben Chairot because he knew how the market worked. He had the Supply and held out
He got a great return for doing so that was far more then anyone on this site would admit he was worth before the Trade was made.


Fair enough! I still don’t think it would happen, but I never thought we would get a first for Chiarot. I hope you’re right.
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Literally every insider disagree's . .
Trade Deadline is Supply vs Demand
Teams people thought would Sell who have Centers
They are still 4-6 points out of a Wildcard spot and buying now.

Its supply vs Demand and we have Supply
Its like this every TDL. I mean was Pleakanec worth a 2nd and 2 prospects in his career worst year? Nope
We still got it and turned that deal into Lane Hutson in the long run

Was Hanzal worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick coming off LTIR at the TDL just to return to it 2 months later? Nope

The **** about Supply vs Demand when a playoff race is close is sometimes you over pay for a Tomas Tatar just to Bench him so PIT cant have him for their push.
Gm's go to War at the TDL and how they do defines the next 12 months for them in many's eyes as the fall out from it is huge.
Bergavin chose not to add so many times wasting the career of Carey Price. So he's been passed over for many GM jobs since as he's not trusted to compete or even rebuild anymore

Too many bad TDL's screwed him for years to come despite all the good trades the bad signings and lack of added depth on his runs proved he didnt have what it takes.
That said Hughes doesnt have the same issues with make the big trades and getting the maximum return
I mean he got a 1st for Ben Chairot because he knew how the market worked. He had the Supply and held out
He got a great return for doing so that was far more then anyone on this site would admit he was worth before the Trade was made.


I agree with all of that (well most, truth be told it felt like I was reading a terms of agreement, so I didn't fully read it) but that is all based on emotion and rumors. We can speculate and show past examples but every year has a large standard deviation.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
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23 janv. à 19 h 51
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I agree with all of that (well most, truth be told it felt like I was reading a terms of agreement, so I didn't fully read it) but that is all based on emotion and rumors. We can speculate and show past examples but every year has a large standard deviation.



Sometimes Goalies or Wingers get more,Sometimes less
Defense is hit and miss too

But Centers year in and year out get overpaid as a Rule
Used to be only those winning over 50% of Faceoffs
But Now even guys Struggling between NHL and finding a team like Plekky /Staal got paid in their worst years playing really bad.
Why? Supply vs demand and the gamble was worth it even if it was just to take the option away from a rival

Trade Deadline is different each year to a degree's
But when it comes to Centers there's not a single team selling low with multiple suitors.
Even that bum Henrique who's played 13 years has 13 playoff points all in his Rookie Year
He'll still get paid despite being the biggest Bum since Martin Hanzal at the TDL
23 janv. à 19 h 53
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I’d take Kovacevic for a 5th. Would probably be okay with upping it to a 4th if necessary
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23 janv. à 19 h 57
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Sometimes Goalies or Wingers get more,Sometimes less
Defense is hit and miss too

But Centers year in and year out get overpaid as a Rule
Used to be only those winning over 50% of Faceoffs
But Now even guys Struggling between NHL and finding a team like Plekky /Staal got paid in their worst years playing really bad.
Why? Supply vs demand and the gamble was worth it even if it was just to take the option away from a rival

Trade Deadline is different each year to a degree's
But when it comes to Centers there's not a single team selling low with multiple suitors.
Even that bum Henrique who's played 13 years has 13 playoff points all in his Rookie Year
He'll still get paid despite being the biggest Bum since Martin Hanzal at the TDL


Ha ha ha. Tell us how you really feel. smile

I generally agree but Monahan had so many underwhelming years in a row. Still he has had an ok season and is fairly cheap. It will be interesting to see where he goes and for what. I think MTL wants to sell high on him since he might want 4MM per next contract and won't be worth it.
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23 janv. à 19 h 58
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i think they will aime to get a sooner second round pick instead of 2026.
23 janv. à 20 h 1
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i think they will aime to get a sooner second round pick instead of 2026.

Probably but the avs don’t have any second round pick anymore 😅
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23 janv. à 20 h 20
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that monahan trade is as fair as i've seen on this site. Hurts bc Meyers is a legit 4th liner that for reasons unexplainable is not in the good graces of the Avs like *looks at roster* Kiviranta & MacDermid...

as stated, he is a last option for the Avs. I'm pretty sure they only do it if all other trades fail and if RyJo is THAT bad that even Lehkonen can't get things going.
23 janv. à 20 h 32
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that monahan trade is as fair as i've seen on this site. Hurts bc Meyers is a legit 4th liner that for reasons unexplainable is not in the good graces of the Avs like *looks at roster* Kiviranta & MacDermid...

as stated, he is a last option for the Avs. I'm pretty sure they only do it if all other trades fail and if RyJo is THAT bad that even Lehkonen can't get things going.


It’s waivers. Meyers can’t play another game without losing his eligibility. He’s probably a last resort or playoff call up and there’s not much he can do to change that right now
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23 janv. à 20 h 38
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It’s waivers. Meyers can’t play another game without losing his eligibility. He’s probably a last resort or playoff call up and there’s not much he can do to change that right now


yeah, i know it's the waivers thing. he's still a better player than Kiviranta or MacDermid and possibly also Oloffson. I think he's not a bad fit for a Minnesota trade, they'd love him there.
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23 janv. à 20 h 58
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Kovacevic? Not realistic at all. Almost dense.
23 janv. à 21 h 34
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As a plan B or C I think it’s fine. Play him as a 3rd liner, see if Colton can take tougher minutes.

Meyers came into the league with a lot of hype, but he’s in a weird spot for Colorado. After this next game, he loses waiver exemption. I think it’s fair to see him go to a bad team where he can get some more ice time without fear of being waived.

My fear with Monahan is the same as RyJo he just can’t keep up especially if he is paired with the likes of Wood and LOC, I just hate the fit stylistically.
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What happened to Kovacevic I remember he was well regarded last year
 
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