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A Basic TDL

Créé par: Nick_SUCCzuki
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2024
Publié: 19 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I've been surprised with how the team has been performing this season, but I still want them to tank and get a top 5 pick this year (hoping Lidstrom can fall to us).

Really excited to see what the team can do next year
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Monahan, Sean (950 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
half retained, dont want to do the math
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $74 993 749 $1 170 000 $4 392 500 $8 506 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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835 000 $835 000 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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19 janv. à 12 h 52
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Canucks pass easily
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19 janv. à 12 h 52
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You aren’t getting a 2nd round pick for a #6/7 dman who’d be a healthy scratch for the Canucks the rest of this season. I’d pay a 4th for Kovacevic but nothing more. Depth dmen don’t have that much value
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19 janv. à 12 h 56
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Quoting: mv21227
You aren’t getting a 2nd round pick for a #6/7 dman who’d be a healthy scratch for the Canucks the rest of this season. I’d pay a 4th for Kovacevic but nothing more. Depth dmen don’t have that much value


Not even a fourth.
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19 janv. à 12 h 58
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Sean Monahan is a 3C on a cup contender, he's not getting no 1st round pick.

Jake Allen at full value isn't getting no 3rd round pick. Allen = Reimer and Reimer at 50% is far more valuable then Allen.

Sorry since when do #6/7 dmen get a 2nd round pick?
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19 janv. à 13 h 0
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I really do wonder how you think that trade is possible for Edmonton we’re are we gonna get the 3.8M from to pay Allen?
19 janv. à 13 h 1
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looks ok.
kova MIGHT be worth that much but it would have to be a late 2nd, or maybe a futur 2nd
19 janv. à 13 h 6
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Kovacevic is underrated, I would trade Barron over him if he gets a better return. With Reinbacher and Mailloux coming and now Konyushkov I think Barron is an expendable trade chip.
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19 janv. à 13 h 10
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Monahan might be okay as a depth add in case of injuries, but he's in no way worth anywhere near a 1st to Winnipeg.

He's not a player you actively search for, he's a fall back when plan A, B and C fall through.
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19 janv. à 13 h 13
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Quoting: Shanesaw9
Kovacevic is underrated, I would trade Barron over him if he gets a better return. Barron is an expendable trade chip.


Finally, someone said it! Everyone is scared to be flamed for anything controversial said here. I said the same. Trade him while you can with value.

Guhle has showed he can take the right side. The handiness is overrated, its a Mike Babcok principle that everyone just accepts as the norm.
And, on the right, you have Reinbacher coming and Mailloux is developing nicely as a PPG D in the AHL with a Xhekaj-Mailloux pairing.

Quoting: Oilers_29
I really do wonder how you think that trade is possible for Edmonton we’re are we gonna get the 3.8M from to pay Allen?


He most likely blocks the trade with his 7 team trade list anyways. Not once have I thought Allen was going to EDM. Hes already won a cup and chose to resign in MTL
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19 janv. à 13 h 13
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Sean Monahan is a 3C on a cup contender, he's not getting no 1st round pick.

Jake Allen at full value isn't getting no 3rd round pick. Allen = Reimer and Reimer at 50% is far more valuable then Allen.

Sorry since when do #6/7 dmen get a 2nd round pick?


That’s what you said about Chiarot
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19 janv. à 13 h 14
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
Finally, someone said it! Everyone is scared to be flamed for anything controversial said here. I said the same. Trade him while you can with value.

Guhle has showed he can take the right side. The handiness is overrated, its a Mike Babcok principle that everyone just accepts as the norm.
And, on the right, you have Reinbacher coming and Mailloux is developing nicely as a PPG D in the AHL with a Xhekaj-Mailloux pairing.


Kovacevic might actually net a 2nd. Kulak did last year. A late 2nd isn’t worth as much as these people think it is. I wouldn’t say it’s likely though.
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19 janv. à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Windjammer
Monahan might be okay as a depth add in case of injuries, but he's in no way worth anywhere near a 1st to Winnipeg.

He's not a player you actively search for, he's a fall back when plan A, B and C fall through.


You said the same about Chiarot and we got to flame you for it just one year ago. Monahan might not net us a 1st, but he definitely could.
19 janv. à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Dom1422
Kovacevic might actually net a 2nd. Kulak did last year. A late 2nd isn’t worth as much as these people think it is.


I posted it, Honda Civic for a 2nd

Too many scared to go out on a limb. Just do it. You get a ton of hate like here but... everyone... to agree with you, is boring anyways. Most, usually get it wrong as NHL moves are always nuanced.
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19 janv. à 13 h 16
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That’s what you said about Chiarot


Zito was desperate for D therefore grossly overpaid for Chiarot.
19 janv. à 13 h 19
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Zito was desperate for D therefore grossly overpaid for Chiarot.


And someone will be desperate for a centre and grossly overpay for one. Happens every year.
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19 janv. à 13 h 22
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And someone will be desperate for a centre and grossly overpay for one. Happens every year.


TDL prices balloon the cost meanwhile the offseason you cant even give away a top 6 player. It's been this way in the cap world and its groundhog day at every TDL. You pay more for assets short term when you know that you can use them for a playoff push whereas that isnt a certainty in the offfseason where teams are lukewarm to spend on anything.
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19 janv. à 13 h 25
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
TDL prices balloon the cost meanwhile the offseason you cant even give away a top 6 player. It's been this way in the cap world and its groundhog day at every TDL. You pay more for assets short term when you know that you can use them for a playoff push whereas that isnt a certainty in the offfseason where teams are lukewarm to spend on anything.


Another reason for this is when you’re making the playoffs you plan for that 1st round pick to be in the 20’s.and that 2nd round pick to be late as well. Every team is planning to make a deep run, whether they do or not. A late first round pick is a coin toss. Like 30% chance they even become a regular nhler in your bottom 6. And the late 2nd rounder is probably less than a 10% chance.
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Another reason for this is when you’re making the playoffs you plan for that 1st round pick to be in the 20’s.and that 2nd round pick to be late as well. Every team is planning to make a deep run, whether they do or not. A late first round pick is a coin toss. Like 30% chance they even become a regular nhler in your bottom 6. And the late 2nd rounder is probably less than a 10% chance.


And most ignore the difference between a pick in the top 10 against the value after 22 picks where you have about a 7% chance of the pick becoming a star whereas a top10 has about a 30-50%

Not all 1st round picks are made the same.
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19 janv. à 19 h 2
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Kovacevic a 2nd? Canucks dont need D
 
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