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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 3 - Winter Blues

17 janv. à 0 h 2
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We should do a targeted retool at the deadline. Sell guys like Bert off for younger cheap guys we can plug in right away. Hold half his $$ to increase value
17 janv. à 0 h 7
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We should do a targeted retool at the deadline. Sell guys like Bert off for younger cheap guys we can plug in right away. Hold half his $$ to increase value


We need an OG Annunoby trade
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17 janv. à 0 h 8
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I mean OTT has been miserable so I dont blame him

I would love him here as if they keep McCabe on the right its not a bad mix. He also would be a nice PP QB to push Rielly to unit 2 again


I've watched some Sens games and for a guy who was supposed to help out on defense, really hasn't. He makes mental errors almost as often as Brodie and McCabe from what I've seen.
17 janv. à 0 h 9
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The oilers were getting PDOd. They were always going to improve massively


In general we have seen it 3 times already new coach = improvement well besides OTT but they weird

Even when Tor fired Babs and promoted Keefe we saw improvement

If your not gonna make a trade got to do it. If not got to make a trade
17 janv. à 0 h 9
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We should do a targeted retool at the deadline. Sell guys like Bert off for younger cheap guys we can plug in right away. Hold half his $$ to increase value


To late for that we gave the ghost 11.5m

Berts got a NMC and his value is bleh rn

Basically the OG style would have came via a WN move but we gave the guy his money and we went see yah lul
17 janv. à 0 h 10
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I've watched some Sens games and for a guy who was supposed to help out on defense, really hasn't. He makes mental errors almost as often as Brodie and McCabe from what I've seen.


In general if he came here think we would see improvement. As man OTT be a mess rn
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17 janv. à 0 h 11
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Kind of funny how Willy signs his deal then we see this skid happen

Yes I know he signed it before the SJS game but its pretty funny how he gets 11.5m and then we see this **** lul

Also has anyone seen the guy?

Must have played as he was a -1 tonight
17 janv. à 0 h 12
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
We need an OG Annunoby trade


Issue is we gave Willy that extension and with him basically disappearing that ship sailed

Should have waited honestly as that would have gave them an opportunity to do that

As like OG would have been expiring and u get two or three nice pieces back
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17 janv. à 0 h 14
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We should do a targeted retool at the deadline. Sell guys like Bert off for younger cheap guys we can plug in right away. Hold half his $$ to increase value


I think it’s tougher to find a trade fit with that approach but if they can pull it off, great.

I’m all for just going for the universal currency.
17 janv. à 0 h 16
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We know Garlands value isn't great around the league, and that Vancouver are looking to shed cap while improving.

I'd like to grab Garland for Bert 50% ret
And have Vancouver throw in Brzustewicz
Then we can draft his younger brother Henry Brzustewicz out of London next year.

Once woll gets back, sell Sammy half retained for a pick. Probably a 3rd
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17 janv. à 0 h 19
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We know Garlands value isn't great around the league, and that Vancouver are looking to shed cap while improving.

I'd like to grab Garland for Bert 50% ret
And have Vancouver throw in Brzustewicz
Then we can draft his younger brother Henry Brzustewicz out of London next year.

Once woll gets back, sell Sammy half retained for a pick. Probably a 3rd


Van aint gonna move him

That third line of Joshua-Bleuger-Garland has been so good

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/garland-blueger-and-joshua-are-the-canucks-most-consistent-line-8000910
17 janv. à 0 h 19
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Van aint gonna move him

That third line of Joshua-Bleuger-Garland has been so good


We know they don't want him and have been looking for a move. Offer them a player with more upside, a shorter contract at half the price and they'll jump
17 janv. à 0 h 21
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We know they don't want him and have been looking for a move. Offer them a player with more upside, a shorter contract at half the price and they'll jump


In general the trade your probs gonna get is Kuzmenko but that guy has to be sheltered and is a PP specialist

With how well their third line has been doubt Van wants to break it up even with the contract and all that as like TBL with Coleman-Gourde-Goodrow they gonna want that line going into playoffs

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/garland-blueger-and-joshua-are-the-canucks-most-consistent-line-8000910
17 janv. à 0 h 25
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I’m curious, how are our Brad Trelivers doing?

Worried yet?
17 janv. à 0 h 25
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Here are the options rn

1. Fire Keefe and dont make a trade

2. Make a trade and give Keefe a new toy to play with

3. Fire Keefe and make a trade.
17 janv. à 0 h 26
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I’m curious, how are our Brad Trelivers doing?

Worried yet?


Nah we all know whose fault it is

Its Nylanders

Guy got his money and people were like oh his play wont drop

5 games may be a small sample but has anyone seen him lul

And were gonna be paying him how much?


Also factor in the big 4 only having 1 goal and being meh the rest of the game and yea what more can yah do

As we had the chance for change twice and decided nah lul
17 janv. à 0 h 27
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Nah we all know whose fault it is

Its Nylanders

Guy got his money and people were like oh his play wont drop

5 games may be a small sample but has anyone seen him lul

And were gonna be paying him how much?


Lol
17 janv. à 0 h 29
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In general the trade your probs gonna get is Kuzmenko but that guy has to be sheltered and is a PP specialist

With how well their third line has been doubt Van wants to break it up even with the contract and all that as like TBL with Coleman-Gourde-Goodrow they gonna want that line going into playoffs

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/garland-blueger-and-joshua-are-the-canucks-most-consistent-line-8000910


I'd be okay with kuzmenko too. Prefer Garland but I wouldn't hold up the trade over it.
And again, we know they want the space. It's as much a hockey trade as it is a cap dump for them
17 janv. à 0 h 31
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In general if he came here think we would see improvement. As man OTT be a mess rn


And Arizona was not a mess while he was there? Common denominator.

I get that the forwards are not playing well but the D looks just as horrible with him.
17 janv. à 0 h 32
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I'd be okay with kuzmenko too. Prefer Garland but I wouldn't hold up the trade over it.
And again, we know they want the space. It's as much a hockey trade as it is a cap dump for them


Main issue with Kuzmenko seems his role and how sheltered hes got to be

But meh I wouldnt be totally against as maybe we need a PP specialist rn lul
17 janv. à 0 h 33
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And Arizona was not a mess while he was there? Common denominator.

I get that the forwards are not playing well but the D looks just as horrible with him.


To be fair we have never seen Chycrun on a good team

OTT was meh when they got him and ARI has been meh since their origins

On a team like Avs, BOS, EDM, TOR, CANES, etc would be interesting to see how he does

As I think he would thrive as its no accident the guys scored a good chunk of goals and had nice 2-way numbers before.
17 janv. à 0 h 36
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Anyways Babs was fired after they lost 6 in a row, same with Wood in EDM, and Everson with the Wild (maybe was 7)

So far were at 4 with 3 being multi goal leads blown.

For his sake probs fair to assume 3-1-1 puts him in the clear especially if the wins are against Van and WPG

But first things first he needs to go find Willy
17 janv. à 0 h 50
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
I’m curious, how are our Brad Trelivers doing?

Worried yet?


I mean I'm not really giving up hope yet. Atleast we aren't buying into a team that we know is garbage. These are the growing pains of retooling a roster to fit a different mindset, like the 2019-20 Leafs. I have no doubt they'll figure it out, and I am a fan of Treliving's roster construction philosophies (that Calgary blueline was a work of art). I can't say that the results this season have really been surprising, and atleast the core is locked up so we don't have to worry about them

I'm not giving up yet. Whether that belief is blissful ignorance or not is yet to be seen, but I think the Leafs will be fine. Keefe will finish this season as head coach, the Leafs will make no major moves at the TDL (maybe a Robertson / Timmins prospect swap of sorts?), and we will get bounced in the first round of the playoffs. It'll be the same old story as always.

I personally like to think that the lack of success recently has fallen largely on our goaltending. This team will be fine when Woll is back. I also believe that this kind of forward group is EXACTLY what Treliving wants, but the blueline is still a long ways off. That'll be the priority this summer. For now, I want to see some strategic long term additions. Give me Alex Texier, give me Brandon Duhaime, give me Mario Ferraro (unless he costs more than like a 2nd round pick combined). Just be smart with our assets, that's all I want
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17 janv. à 0 h 55
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Robertson should be in vs. CGY

Enough of Gregor

3 goals in 5 games nah sit him in the pressbox

What has Gregor done to keep his 4th line spot. Hes fast thats it.

Holmberg-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Rielly-Jarnkrok
Knies-Domi-Nylander
Robertson-Kampf-McMann

Rielly-Liligren
McCabe-Brodie (**** im gonna hate it but until u add cant do much)
Gio-Benoit

And man I hope Knies gets it together. As tonight on that tying goal it was rough for him and Brodie.

But anyways yea thats what I would do
17 janv. à 1 h 13
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Tor receives: Mike Sullivan

Pitt receives: Keefe + 4th round pick

Fair right?
 
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