Facinga lot of shots gets you some leeway in the way that if a top 10 guy looks like he's in the mid teens sort of way. If it makes you look worse than a bunch of replacement level starters for years and years it simply means you are bad.
And he was already on a pretty sharp downswing before the ducks rebuild started, back when their defence was basically manson, lindholm, fowler etc etc in their primes. He is a huge part of why they are bad

I’d prefer Saros or Hart

The poster of this AGM certainly does

And hes very rapidly sinking again. He had a hot start when the ducks pdo was sky high and he's been falling fast over the past 10 games

You are giving up the future for garbage

When you lead the league in shots faced... You're bound to make mental mistakes...

I'm not saying he's great... But it's that he's not terrible

This ^

Having term while being worse players doesn't increase value, it makes them worse.

Again, when you are literally one of the worst goalies in the league by every metric facing a lot of shots means that, at best, you are in early 20s for starters. That is pretty damned bad, especially when you have a giant contract

Leafs obviously decline both of these lmao I wouldn’t give a 7th for either player both are not good definitely on par with timmins lol

Let's see. Leafs have Reaves so they don't need Pezzatta. Samsonov is as good as Allen, maybe better. Jarnkrok is as good as Monahan. Brodie is better than Savard.
So the Leafs trade for 4.4m Murphy who isn't much better than 1.4mLiljegren. and give up Minten, Niemla and two thirds. That's awful for the Leafs
Brodie's and Jarnkrok's M NTC have too be considered....going to non playoff team. And maybe even Murphy's
Leafs are much better having Brodie and Samsonov as UFAs and having 8.5m in cap next summer rather than Allen and Savard on the team at 6.8km

He isn't this year though... He's a lot better... Bc the guy in the 3rd row isn't in the starting lineup...

He's not great but he isn't bad

Not gonna touch on the values here, everyone has an opinion and not many people agree.

From all of this, TOR could use Monahan this year as a versatile add. I've thought for a while the Leafs should be targeting Murphy. But the rest I just don't see as plausible. Your fanbase is in love with Lilly, can't actually see him going anywhere. As much as I'd love Minten, he also isn't likely to be going anywhere. Cap wise, making a move for Lankinen in NSH (retained if necessary) would make more sense for a G addition. NSH also has plenty of rugged 4th liners you could be targeting, Pezz is a solid 4th liner imo if that's who you'd prefer though.

The Brodie move seems obvious as the money out part of the trades, I'm a fan of his but his cap hit makes it tough to make other moves.

Monahan (possible retention), Murphy, Lankinen (possible retention), + additional depth pieces would be a solid tdl for Toronto imo, and yes I'm aware this is from an outsiders pov.

No, he isnt bettet this year, he had a hot start like his entire team and was buoyed by riding percentages, he has been trending down fast over the past month plus.
He is bad, and a good month doesn't change that

He is though...

One bad month doesn't change that

Reaves will never play a playoff game so why not get a 4th liner that can keep up to the play and still willing to drop the mitts if needed.
I see Allen as a more stable goaltender if he had a better team in front of him. Sick of Sammy’s one soft goal a game minimum.
Sorry but Jarnkrok is not as good as Monaghan, who also plays C, so his value is even higher.

I see Brodie and Savard almost as equals but Savard is bigger and more physical, plus makes 1.5M less and has term left on his deal.

Sometimes I wished they offered an unlike button. I do not see eye to eye with your views. But hey, it’s your opinion

No, but 5 bad years do

Wait, so the leafs badly need defence, so you want to add defence from the habs and a goalie while using the excuse that the habs are bad? So wouldn't allen look worse behind a team that is so bad defensively it needs guys from a team that is bad at defence?
And again, if allen cant put up good numbers this year behind as a backup with no pressure then why are you so sure he's gonna put up good numbers with a good team and tons of pressure?
After all, he is soft mentally

Bigger and more physical????? So maybe the Leafs should fill their lineup with six "Benoits". Sorry that is not a reason at all. Good is better than big. Don't want Savard's term. Pezzatta as 4th liner on the Habs makes him non better than 5th liner on the Leafs.....like Reaves.

He won the Stanley cup 4 years ago with great numbers. Continually over 900 save% his whole career. Just need him to back up. He would be a better mentor for Woll than Swiss Sammy is

Huh? Reaves is too slow and they won’t play him in playoffs. Just going after a 4th liner who could play every night and bring a tough guy presence

He hasn't been bad for 5 years

Four years ago eh? Wow, thats really impressive save the part where it was binnington who backstopped that team 90% of thr way and that it has no baring on what he is today. And why on earth would you want a backup mentoring a guy you want to be a starter?
Lol, continually over 900 is not good, especially for a backup who gets fed the softer starts

Yeah, he really has, all you gotta do is look at any number that shows actual results