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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 28
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This is horrific, Samsonov > Markstrom for one. and nylander is worth a lot more the andersson and a first especially if we are adding liljegren into the mix
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 30
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Certainly not for that offer lmao add 2 1sts and they consider it but not likely
11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 32
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Klingberg is out for the season -so he needs to be taken out of the 2nd pairing lineup and put on LTIR.
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 33
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Just taking that markstrom contract gets a bunch of good picks and prospects, especially if the leafs are sending back a better goalie.
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 44
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Why would either team do this? Did you put any thought into it? If Nylander is not signing in T.O., you think he’ll sign in Calgary for some reason 🤯? Can’t see them moving Andersen for a rental
Leafs are competing this year, losing one of our best offensive players makes absolutely no sense and because of Markstrom’s cap hit - we can’t add anyone.
Truly hard to figure
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
This is horrific, Samsonov > Markstrom for one. and nylander is worth a lot more the andersson and a first especially if we are adding liljegren into the mix


Lol nice troll post
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 56
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This is horrific, Samsonov > Markstrom for one. and nylander is worth a lot more the andersson and a first especially if we are adding liljegren into the mix

How do you figure or justify Nylander is > Rasmus Andersson!??... And how many Vezina conversations has Samsonov ever been in!???

Nylander's a UFA Winger looking for $10mil/yr+ while Andersson's a 1RD playing at Double his current Cap Hit for 2.7 more seasons.... I wouldn't Trade them straight up.

C's & RD's have additional positional value.... And some ppl here think I'm a homer, Wow!
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11 déc. 2023 à 15 h 57
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Why would either team do this? Did you put any thought into it? If Nylander is not signing in T.O., you think he’ll sign in Calgary for some reason 🤯? Can’t see them moving Andersen for a rental
Leafs are competing this year, losing one of our best offensive players makes absolutely no sense and because of Markstrom’s cap hit - we can’t add anyone.
Truly hard to figure

Pretty sure Nylander would be happy to sign anywhere he can get the best pay day....
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11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 4
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Pretty sure Nylander would be happy to sign anywhere he can get the best pay day....


Fair enough, not saying he wouldn’t sign in Calgary but if he’s not signing in Toronto - pretty confident in saying he’d test FA…so he’d be a rental
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11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 6
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Okay lily and samsonov for markstrom and a 1st is a wash, maybe not even quite that markstrom contract is awful they should have to add a 3rd for sure and then nylander for Anderson that’s truly brutal brad would be fired if he made this trade like I said before add 2 1sts and throw this idea away it’s so bad
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 11
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Fair enough, not saying he wouldn’t sign in Calgary but if he’s not signing in Toronto - pretty confident in saying he’d test FA…so he’d be a rental

For sure, it'd be a good bet & gamble on himself, that's for sure
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: KingofRnR
How do you figure or justify Nylander is > Rasmus Andersson!??... And how many Vezina conversations has Samsonov ever been in!???

Nylander's a UFA Winger looking for $10mil/yr+ while Andersson's a 1RD playing at Double his current Cap Hit for 2.7 more seasons.... I wouldn't Trade them straight up.

C's & RD's have additional positional value.... And some ppl here think I'm a homer, Wow!

Andersson is useless to us, We don't need offensive defensemen and especially not on the right side. additionally markstrom having one good career season behind a fantastic team+defense is meaningless considering his higher cap hit and way more history of being streaky and at times straight up bad, also, hes hurt.
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Lol nice troll post


Lol whatever man continue to believe markstrom is good just cause 6 million dollars is sunk into him
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 17
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Okay lily and samsonov for markstrom and a 1st is a wash, maybe not even quite that markstrom contract is awful they should have to add a 3rd for sure and then nylander for Anderson that’s truly brutal brad would be fired if he made this trade like I said before add 2 1sts and throw this idea away it’s so bad

That's ridiculous man. Nylander's Amazing, but so is Andersson given his age and the contract he currently has.... You're completely ignoring his contract and positional value...

I wouldn't Trade them Straight Up unless Nylander came with a 4-6 year contract for less than $8mil/yr, which ain't happening and I still might say no, because Centre's and RD's are far more valuable and needed than Wingers, especially those exiting their Prime Years. We'd be much better off finding or drafting and developing the next Nylander than letting go of Andersson, who's likely our next Captain and should be with us for the next 10+ years...
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 19
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
Andersson is useless to us, We don't need offensive defensemen and especially not on the right side. additionally markstrom having one good career season behind a fantastic team+defense is meaningless considering his higher cap hit and way more history of being streaky and at times straight up bad, also, hes hurt.

I see you don't know much about Andersson or hockey, that helps your post make more sense lol

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Lol whatever man continue to believe markstrom is good just cause 6 million dollars is sunk into him

This isn't even your Thread or AGM lol...
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
Lol whatever man continue to believe markstrom is good just cause 6 million dollars is sunk into him


I mean lol
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11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 25
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I see you don't know much about Andersson or hockey, that helps your post make more sense lol


This isn't even your Thread or AGM lol...


Andersson doesnt hit, 12/14 of his giveaways this season are in the defensive zone and has an on ice goals and expected goals % of 48.5% so why exactly would we trade liljegren and nylander who are both crucial players for over 10m in cap in players we dont need at all
11 déc. 2023 à 16 h 38
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Andersson doesnt hit, 12/14 of his giveaways this season are in the defensive zone and has an on ice goals and expected goals % of 48.5% so why exactly would we trade liljegren and nylander who are both crucial players for over 10m in cap in players we dont need at all

Where did I ever say or suggest they should!??....

Andersson isn't paid to hit lol, he's paid to play Defense, Kill Penalties, Produce Points and QB the Power Play.... He's a 2-Way Defensemen, not just an Offensive Defensemen. He's having a rough go on the Power Play and Playing for what most consider a Crappy Team this season, so yeah, his underlying stats aren't going to stand out or be that great. How about the seasons prior though!? You think at 27, he's fallen off or something lol, do you even ever watch him play!?

There certainly has to be a reason CapFriendly has Andersson rated as an 87-P1 compared to say, Reilly's 84-P2, no!?
11 déc. 2023 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: KingofRnR
That's ridiculous man. Nylander's Amazing, but so is Andersson given his age and the contract he currently has.... You're completely ignoring his contract and positional value...

I wouldn't Trade them Straight Up unless Nylander came with a 4-6 year contract for less than $8mil/yr, which ain't happening and I still might say no, because Centre's and RD's are far more valuable and needed than Wingers, especially those exiting their Prime Years. We'd be much better off finding or drafting and developing the next Nylander than letting go of Andersson, who's likely our next Captain and should be with us for the next 10+ years...


That’s wonderful if you think that leafs aren’t trading nylander so it’s a pointless debate brad would be fired
11 déc. 2023 à 17 h 16
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That’s wonderful if you think that leafs aren’t trading nylander so it’s a pointless debate brad would be fired

Doesn't mean you can't discuss, debate or educate a players value...

If TOR could broker a 2/3-for-1 Trade for Nylander and get something in return instead of losing him to Free Agency for nothing, I personally think they'd be dumb not too

Either Hanifin or Tanev Retained + Either Mangiapane or (Sharangovich + Dube) are Players that'd actually help advance TOR in the Playoffs. Of course the Flames would only do this with an extension in place on Nylander...

How many times is TOR gonna use the same playbook and get bounced in the 1st Round before they learn Defense is what Wins Championships...
11 déc. 2023 à 17 h 18
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Doesn't mean you can't discuss, debate or educate a players value...

If TOR could broker a 2/3-for-1 Trade for Nylander and get something in return instead of losing him to Free Agency for nothing, I personally think they'd be dumb not too

Either Hanifin or Tanev Retained + Either Mangiapane or (Sharangovich + Dube) are Players that'd actually help advance TOR in the Playoffs. Of course the Flames would only do this with an extension in place on Nylander...

How many times is TOR gonna use the same playbook and get bounced in the 1st Round before they learn Defense is what Wins Championships...


Leafs won’t trade nylander if they do brad will be fired if they can’t resign him Brad will get fired it’s that simple and the guy wants to keep his job for more then 8 months lol
11 déc. 2023 à 17 h 21
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Leafs won’t trade nylander if they do brad will be fired if they can’t resign him Brad will get fired it’s that simple and the guy wants to keep his job for more then 8 months lol

Probably, but to be honest, Firing Brad would probably be the best decision and result for the Leafs lol
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11 déc. 2023 à 17 h 23
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Probably, but to be honest, Firing Brad would probably be the best decision and result for the Leafs lol


Yeah I don’t have a lot of faith in him after he signed klingberg and reaves lol
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11 déc. 2023 à 18 h 39
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I mean lol
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