Kent Johnson joining the Michigan Boys

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The devils already built that contender. Now you just wait, keep the cap in order by avoiding any more bad contracts (looking at you Palat), convince your guys to take discounts to stay, and fill holes with shrewd trades like we already have with Toffoli, Haula, Marino and Siegs

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 28

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Quoting: GMDannyB

It’s going to cost more than that to get him and he would have the same problem with the Devils buried on the center depth chart

The way it's looking right now the devils already have 5 solid top 9 C options with how Mcleod has looked.
Hughes+Nico obviously

Haula will always be capable no matter where you slot him in the middle 6, mercer again should be a more than capable 3C at the least if not slid in as a top 6 winger, and McLeods showing some more offensive flash this year that could lead him to being a strong 2 way 2C at this rate.

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 29

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Quoting: GMDannyB

It’s going to cost more than that to get him and he would have the same problem with the Devils buried on the center depth chart

I think he'd be pretty dynamic playing on one of the top 2 wings. I think It'll probably cost at least a 1st and a 3rd plus the prospects to get him, but in this scenario, the Devils likely wouldn't have a 1st available this year. Maybe a 1st next year and a 2nd this year plus a good prospect in Gritsyuk who can step in now for Columbus is enough, I don't know

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 30

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Quoting: TGSCraig

It’s clear either he or Columbus don’t want him on the wing they want him at center so I don’t see how moving him to the wing would make sense that’s like a last ditch effort you do for a center

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We arent trading KJ, but if we did it would take your best player under 23 at least

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3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 33

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Well the reason he hasn't stuck in Columbus is that they want him to play center and he's not ready to be a top 6 center. We have no such need with Hughes and Hischier and in fact, have plenty of other center capable players. So we can just let him cook on the wing and be super creative next to Jack or Nico. No matter how you pair up the top 6 here, it would be incredibly dynamic, and it strengthens our bottom 6 to have Mercer and Haula there.

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Quoting: BoomerTheHero

We arent trading KJ, but if we did it would take your best player under 23 at least

uhhhh... have you heard who our best player under 23 is..... They're certainly not trading that guy for Kent Johnson.

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Quoting: TGSCraig

uhhhh... have you heard who our best player under 23 is..... They're certainly not trading that guy for Kent Johnson.

I didnt think i needed to specify that it wouldnt be your 1C, but yeah other than him

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Quoting: BoomerTheHero

We arent trading KJ, but if we did it would take your best player under 23 at least

I don't think it would be Luke Hughes, Dawson Mercer, or Nemec either

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 37

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Quoting: BoomerTheHero

We arent trading KJ, but if we did it would take your best player under 23 at least

I will say though that there's a case to be made that the Devils would be better suited trading Dawson Mercer (who is about to be much more expensive but is a much more capable young center) for Kent Johnson, who seems to be a more natural play driver, will be cheaper, but is less reliable in the D-zone.

If something around that worked out, you'd just slide Holtz up to the 3rd line and add a bottom 6 two way winger with some size in his place with the cap space that is freed up.

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 38

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Quoting: dgibb10

I don't think it would be Luke Hughes, Dawson Mercer, or Nemec either

I think it could be mercer, if yall really wanted KJ. If we moved KJ it would be more of a hockey trade for a similar level of player, or a player with similar potential. we wouldnt want a package of picks and ok prospects.

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Quoting: BoomerTheHero

No point moving mercer out in a lateral move for NJD. Not good for morale or chemistry of the team

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Quoting: dgibb10

I don't think it would be Luke Hughes, Dawson Mercer, or Nemec either

I definitely think there's a case KJ is worth Mercer. Given their respective likely contract situations. I love Dawgson, but players as dynamic as KJ do not grow on trees. You could probably slot a Nolan Foote or Gritsyuk in on the 3rd line and not miss much.

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No point moving mercer out in a lateral move for NJD. Not good for morale or chemistry of the team

Fine by me, we arent trading KJ anyways. At least not at this point.

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Quoting: TGSCraig

Trading mercer for KJ would be making a trade for the sake of making a trade. No point

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 41

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Fine by me, we arent trading KJ anyways. At least not at this point.

I wouldn't trade KJ either if I were you

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I don't think Mercer for KJ is a lateral move at all by the way. I think those are two entirely different types of player. Might not make sense for the Devils to do a trade like that, but Dawson Mercer is not a play driver. He's a 2-way secondary scorer and support forward.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

It’s going to cost more than that to get him and he would have the same problem with the Devils buried on the center depth chart

Kent Johnson is not a center.

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Anyway I think this is at least a somewhat interesting idea. I don't really get why Columbus who isn't going anywhere this year is really insisting on Patrik Laine 2C behind Fantilli and isn't just letting KJ cook.

I think the Devils should look for ways to turn future prospects/picks into assets that are a closer to being full time players. They've found late gems enough that I think they'll be able to continue to do that while cracking their window wide open.

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 49

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Woah, didn't realize Mercer is still pointless this season. He was nasty last year, what happened?

3 nov. 2023 à 16 h 56

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Kent Johnson would be awesome, but there is no reason Columbus trades him for collection of lesser pieces…even if sum-if-the-parts has more value.

The only realistic move would probably a deal around Mercer, if CBJ viewed him as a center and as future top-6 center for them. But don’t see the incentive from NJD perspective unless Mercer contract becomes too much or there is another piece involved.

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