Burning Down the Flames

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Créé par: jcambers

Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 31 oct. 2023

Publié: 31 oct. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Time to burn it down. Sell now. Get picks. Take on a few bum contracts to offload others while also sitting with a few bad contracts of our own. Let's just take the bullet as fans and rebuild.

Transactions

CGY

Anderson, Josh
Monahan, Sean
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)

MTL

Huberdeau, Jonathan

CGY

Cozens, Dylan
Jokiharju, Henri
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (MIN)

BUF

Détails additionnels:

*sign & trade

CGY

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

TOR

Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)

CGY

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (DET)

DET

Dubé, Dillon

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Christopher Tanev: 2 250 000 $ (200%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	75 949 166 $	0 $	880 000 $	7 550 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Sharangovich, Yegor 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Cozens, Dylan 7 100 000 $7 100 000 $ C, AG UFA - 7	Mangiapane, Andrew 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2
Pelletier, Jakob 863 333 $863 333 $ AG RFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C NMC UFA - 6	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Coleman, Blake 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 4	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Coronato, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Duehr, Walker 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Weegar, MacKenzie 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD RFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin 813 333 $813 333 $ (15 000 $$15K) G RFA - 1
Zadorov, Nikita 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Gilbert, Dennis 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Oesterle, Jordan 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Rooney, Kevin 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ C UFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Greer, AJ 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

31 oct. 2023 à 14 h 46

p1015983

Habs_fan

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That's a no from Habs. Flames fans can watch Habs pick in top 5 next season with that pick

Campabee, Caufield, Just_A_Guess and 1 other person a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 14 h 47

littlejerryseinfeld

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Buffalo obviously isn't doing that.

Good lord

wojme et AntiAnalytics a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 14 h 53

Kinger25

Banni

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Leafs accept but they gotta send you klingberg to make the cap work

31 oct. 2023 à 14 h 55

Black61

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That habs trade isnt even the ballpark

Caufield, Just_A_Guess et Fran615 a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 15 h 9

Burnout

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Buffalo passes very easily. Montreal passes then blocks every number from the city of Calgary.

Caufield, Just_A_Guess, wojme and 2 others a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 15 h 13

Caufield

Sennecke is a gem

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Live with your mistakes, one of the worst offseason in CGY history...

Just_A_Guess et Fran615 a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 15 h 31

The_Rocket

Judd Bracket ripoff

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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habs trade and buffalo trade are truly horrendus

Fran615 et AntiAnalytics a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 15 h 33

Lsendel3

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Buffalo says no thank you

AntiAnalytics a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 15 h 37

Jay27

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Habs take a hard pass. Huberdeau’s production since going to the Flames is nowhere near worth his contract and he’s locked up for 8 more years.

Fran615 a aimé ceci.

31 oct. 2023 à 17 h 26

#10

Fran615

Rejoint: avr. 2018

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Habs would refuse Huberdeau for future considerations right now.

Are you joking? Please tell me you are joking right?

The absolute WORST contrct in the entire NHL, on year 1 of 8, at 10.5 M AAV... and you actually want a 1st round pick going your way? AND Monahan.

I mean... we're past the laughing phase here.

Read the comments man. Look in the mirror.

NO ONE would want Huberdeau, EVEN if the Flames ADDED 2 first round picks, only to get rid of it.

31 oct. 2023 à 19 h 37

#11

BorisBagel

Boris Bagel

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Modifié 31 oct. 2023 à 19 h 43

Take out the 1st and Monahan and Habs might consider but still say no thanks without retention

31 oct. 2023 à 21 h 11

#12

ht42

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Quoting: p1015983

That's a no from Habs. Flames fans can watch Habs pick in top 5 next season with that pick

I just want to know if the Flames pick has a top 10 protection ?

1 nov. 2023 à 0 h 12

#13

AntiAnalytics

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Modifié 9 nov. 2023 à 7 h 23

In case the previous responses weren’t enough to convince you, the Sabres trade is absurd

Cozens is untouchable- FULL STOP
Even if Lindholm came signed, there’s no chance his contract would be even close to as good as Cozens’ deal is

Jokiharju is a young, & cost effective RD
No interest in Hanifin. We just signed Dahlin & Power to huge deals- not gonna being in another high priced defenseman
Zero chance

And Vladar is ABSOLUTELY NOT what we are looking for in goal
I can’t see any way at all we’d even be slightly interested in him

Sorry, but your trade proposal is Not gonna happen

1 nov. 2023 à 9 h 47

#14

Blazingbat11

Molson beer is meh

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Quoting: ht42

I just want to know if the Flames pick has a top 10 protection ?

The conditions on the CGY 1st owned by MTL takes a while to get a good understanding of. But best case scenario for the Habs (or worst case for the Flames) is MTL could get the 2nd overall pick in 2025 or the better of CGY and FLA 1st in 2026, but it depends on where both CGY and FLA place in the standings over the next 2 years….

So complicated lol

1 nov. 2023 à 11 h 20

#15

ht42

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

What ? That's not me.......

1 nov. 2023 à 13 h 16

#16

AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: ht42

What ? That's not me.......

Huh?

1 nov. 2023 à 14 h 32

#17

p1015983

Habs_fan

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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Quoting: ht42

I just want to know if the Flames pick has a top 10 protection ?

Very complicated

If CGY 1st rounder is between 20 and 32 in 2024 Habs have the choice to take that pick instead
If CGY receives FLO 1st rounder in 2025 as a result of the Tkatchuk trade) and CGY 2025 1st rounder is top 10 and FLO 1st rounder in 2025 is not a lottery pick, then HABS get FLO 1st rounder in 2025 instead.
If CGY does not receive FLO 2025 1st round pick and CGY 2025 1st round pick is 1st overall then HABS get CGY 2026 1st round pick unprotected

That pretty much sums it up

1 nov. 2023 à 15 h 51

#18

SMH

Mr.

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wait wait wait, montreal is PAYING you for that contract ???

1 nov. 2023 à 15 h 53

#19

SMH

Mr.

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Quoting: BorisBagel

Take out the 1st and Monahan and Habs might consider but still say no thanks without retention

take the 1st and monahan out , add 50% retention and a 1st and its a maybe

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