Rumours are Joseph is gonna cost to dump

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Créé par: ColonelX

Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2023

Publié: 23 sept. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

- Buying out Armia isn't because of money it's to open contract/roster slots and save 1/3 of his salary instead of having him take a spot in Laval.

- Please Monahan be healthy this year.

- Buying low and bringing home a local talent worked out for Matheson so why not try it on Joseph?

- Of course Pearson and Monahan's trades happen prior to the 2024 TDL.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Xhekaj, Arber	2	850 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	1	825 000 $
Barron, Justin	1	945 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Montembeault, Samuel		3	3 250 000 $
Guentzel, Jake		4	7 570 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Monahan, Sean		1	1 985 000 $
Pearson, Tanner		1	3 250 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

With only 1 retention slot left I don't think we're using it on Monny. Pretty sure he re-signed here knowing he's getting sent out at TDL to a contender (Hopefully he gets a ring).

Conditions: The 2025 3rd round pick upgrades to a 2024 2nd round pick if Pittsburgh advances to the 2024 Eastern Conference Semi-Final.

PIT

Monahan, Sean

Détails additionnels:

This year is the year where age catches up to Jeff Carter and he gets injured. Monahan would be a near perfect fit for 3C duties on a contending team.
Darkhorse trade partner, Boston Burins: I know it's dumb to think we'd trade with them but if we're looking at a playoff/bubble team that could be looking for center help they're a prime target.

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

Détails additionnels:

Anything else than losing him through FA is a bonus just like the DeSmith trade.

BUF

Pearson, Tanner (1 450 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

A bubble team could be interested in a depth guy with playoff/cup experience to help out the young guys?

MTL

Joseph, Mathieu
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)

Détails additionnels:

I'm ready to buy into Joseph following the latest report that it's likely to cost a 1st (Or 1st round value prospect) because of a lack of trading partners in the league -Reported by Di Marco-.

Conditions: -Montreal receives the later of Detroit or Ottawa's 2024 1st round picks. In the event where both picks are top 12 selections or that Detroit retain their 2024 pick and Ottawa's pick is inside the top 15, Ottawa has the option to send their 2025 1st round pick.

- If the 2025 pick is transfered, Montreal will receive the lower of Ottawa's 1st pick or Boston's unprotected 2025 1st or Detroit's 2025 1st.

- If Montreal receives a 2025 1st lower than 20th overall, Ottawa will also send their 2026 5th round selection.

-If pretzels are not available at the 2024 draft table in Nashville, Montreal receives Ottawa's 2025 7th round selection.

OTT

Pezzetta, Michael

Détails additionnels:

Simoneau, Roy and Heineman are all candidates to come up in 2024 so Pezzetta being on a two year low money deal and UFA seems like an easy out guy. If Ottawa doesn't want him then future conisderations are on their way out of Montreal sadly.

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (SEA)

Détails additionnels:

Anything man.

SEA

Dvorak, Christian

Détails additionnels:

Seattle bad at faceoffs, pretty bad at faceoffs.

Rachats de contrats

Joel Armia: 866 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Tanner Pearson: 1 450 000 $ (44.62%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	74 892 917 $	1 022 500 $	3 920 000 $	8 607 083 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 6	Guentzel, Jake 7 570 000 $7 570 000 $ AG, AD UFA
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 1	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse 825 000 $825 000 $ AD, AG RFA
Joseph, Mathieu 2 950 000 $2 950 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ G UFA - 3
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Barron, Justin 945 000 $945 000 $ DD RFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Simoneau, Xavier 855 000 $855 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2
Heineman, Emil 897 500 $897 500 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD RFA

23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 26

csick

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Ottawa isn’t doing that. They’ll move Kubalik or Brannstrom

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23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 29

Mike7856

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If it costs a 1st, move someone else, seems pretty simple to me

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23 sept. 2023 à 16 h 35

sabres89

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Pearson would be in rochester

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23 sept. 2023 à 17 h 54

Mr_Gardoki

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THIS is this year Carter's age catches up with him? Did you watch any Pens games last year? LOLOL

Also, that Monahan thing makes zero sense. He's a UFA. The Pens can just sign him if they want him without giving up any assets.

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23 sept. 2023 à 17 h 59

Xspyrit

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Quoting: Mike7856

If it costs a 1st, move someone else, seems pretty simple to me

Dorion can't be that dumb

It would basically be :

7th OA in 2022 + 39th OA in 2022 + 3rd (package to get DeBrincat) + Nick Paul (to get Joseph + 4th)

for

Kubalik (UFA-to-be) + Sebrango (not a lot of NHL potential) + 4th + 4th

I mean... come on, most Dorion trade trees are already horrible as it is

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23 sept. 2023 à 18 h 4

ricochetii

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We should be moving away from $3M bottom sixers with too much term. You're buying out one to bring in another for longer.
We can't broker for every pick/dump possibility. It has to make some sense around our cap projections and roster space.
We need to start clearing out some spots for prospects at forward and letting bad contracts fall off, while doing our best to avoid creating more.

23 sept. 2023 à 19 h 29

ColonelX

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Also, that Monahan thing makes zero sense. He's a UFA. The Pens can just sign him if they want him without giving up any assets.

Yes, yes, sign him this year while he's under contract. 👌

23 sept. 2023 à 20 h 26

HockeyBoy87

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Pens don't need Monahan for 3c. They have Eller for that role and a plethora of other forwards competing for bottom six spots. I don't think we need anyone else competing there. And Carter sucked last year, so age already caught up to him. Hopefully he can be a bit better this season, but I am not too optimistic about it.

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23 sept. 2023 à 20 h 47

HulkVader

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Pens decline.

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23 sept. 2023 à 21 h 31

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dgibb10

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9 mill of joseph: 1st to dump
9 mill of dvorak coming of a torn ACL: returns value. Excellent logic

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23 sept. 2023 à 21 h 46

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Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: ColonelX

Yes, yes, sign him this year while he's under contract. 👌

Unelss he signs a long-term contract, I'd say he's gone THIS deadline.

24 sept. 2023 à 17 h 26

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Why would Guentzel sign that cheap and that short to go somewhere else? If he leaves Pittsburgh it would be for a big payday.

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