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Pinto For Holtz

Créé par: Whalers7997
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2023
Publié: 20 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
Transactions
NJD
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. McLeod, Michael
  3. Thompson, Tyce
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $80 555 833 $422 500 $1 382 500 $2 944 167 $
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8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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RFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
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RFA - 2

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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 13
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If the Devils reach the 2024 Eastern Conference Finals, your trade for Pinto would be illegal.

Ottawa declines.

Try again.
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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 18
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Holy overpay for the Devils...
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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 19
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Quoting: sensonfire
If the Devils reach the 2024 Eastern Conference Finals, your trade for Pinto would be illegal.

Ottawa declines.

Try again.


I'm curious, why is that? I actually don't know that rule tbh.
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: sensonfire
If the Devils reach the 2024 Eastern Conference Finals, your trade for Pinto would be illegal.

Ottawa declines.

Try again.


the pick can be conditional it doesn't matter

what matters is that the value is terrible for the Devils, who don't need a center that badly
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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
I'm curious, why is that? I actually don't know that rule tbh.


Meier trade
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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: sensonfire
If the Devils reach the 2024 Eastern Conference Finals, your trade for Pinto would be illegal.

Ottawa declines.

Try again.


I would have to assume it would be a conditional trade (ie, if the 2024 conveys to San Jose, Ottawa gets the 2025 1st unprotected, or whatever.) I know that after the Isles traded the conditional 2023 1st in the Horvat trade, the idea was that they could still move the 2024 1st at this year's deadline as long as the team receiving it agreed to it being conditional based on the prior trade.
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Serious question, how do you as a Devils fan think this trade is a good idea? Do you hate Holtz?
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 30
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Unlike many other proposals that have been made the last few days, this one is actually worth considering, even hard to refuse

Gotta be sure that Holtz is worth it though
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Unlike many other proposals that have been made the last few days, this one is actually worth considering, even hard to refuse

Gotta be sure that Holtz is worth it though


It's hard to refuse because the Devils would never do it
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
I would have to assume it would be a conditional trade (ie, if the 2024 conveys to San Jose, Ottawa gets the 2025 1st unprotected, or whatever.) I know that after the Isles traded the conditional 2023 1st in the Horvat trade, the idea was that they could still move the 2024 1st at this year's deadline as long as the team receiving it agreed to it being conditional based on the prior trade.


The OP was probably too lazy to type anything into the trade.
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 34
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Sweet Jeebus

(How are Sens fans declining this?)
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20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
It's hard to refuse because the Devils would never do it

Maybe if the pick would be a 2nd instead of the 1st, it would change everything

Also, no need for Thyce Thompson in there

I think OP is using McLeod as a salary going back the other way but he doesn't need to be involved too

Pinto for Holtz + 2nd

But Sens only do it if they are really high on Holtz because they are pretty damn high on Pinto

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Sweet Jeebus

(How are Sens fans declining this?)

Literally nobody did
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Sweet Jeebus

(How are Sens fans declining this?)


If the Devils make the 2024 ECF, the trade would be illegal.

The OP is trying to scam us.
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: sensonfire
If the Devils make the 2024 ECF, the trade would be illegal.

The OP is trying to scam us.


It would not be. For the league to approve, there would be a condition on the pick.

But it’s moot. Devils wouldn’t part with this amount to upgrade their 4C.
20 sept. 2023 à 14 h 50
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It would not be. For the league to approve, there would be a condition on the pick.

But it’s moot. Devils wouldn’t part with this amount to upgrade their 4C.


Well, the OP didn't add a condition.

He just plugged in the trade to this AGM and left it at that.
20 sept. 2023 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Maybe if the pick would be a 2nd instead of the 1st, it would change everything


Definitely not. There is no reason to trade Holtz for Pinto at all
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20 sept. 2023 à 15 h 7
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This is more than we paid for Timo Meier
20 sept. 2023 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
It would not be. For the league to approve, there would be a condition on the pick.

But it’s moot. Devils wouldn’t part with this amount to upgrade their 4C.


Pinto clears Haula easy.
20 sept. 2023 à 17 h 55
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Definitely not. There is no reason to trade Holtz for Pinto at all

Well, OP is a Devils fans so... And most Pinto for Holtz ACGMs I have seen were from Devils fans.

I am personally not looking to trade Pinto for Holtz, just in this particular case, adding another 1st was appealing
20 sept. 2023 à 18 h 52
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Pinto clears Haula easy.


Maybe, but “upgrade their 4C” was meant for McLeod since he was in the deal….so it would be upgrading McLeod to Pinto. And McLeod is the 4C.
20 sept. 2023 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Serious question, how do you as a Devils fan think this trade is a good idea? Do you hate Holtz?


I think this guy just needs to see his bell go off with comments. Decided it is best to put them on he ignore list now with garbage like this.
20 sept. 2023 à 19 h 15
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Well, OP is a Devils fans so... And most Pinto for Holtz ACGMs I have seen were from Devils fans.

I am personally not looking to trade Pinto for Holtz, just in this particular case, adding another 1st was appealing


We aren't sure they are a real Devils fan, and if they are they aren't knowledgeable, just looking for traffic on their stuff.
 
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