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(BUF / MIN) - Scandella, Pominville for Ennis, Foligno

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30 jun 2017 à 12 h 03
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A trade between Buffalo Sabres and Minnesota Wild has been confirmed.
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30 jun 2017 à 12 h 05
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this says that BUF gets a 3rd and MIN gets a 4th when it's the other way around i believe.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 05
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Great trade for Buffalo. Upgrade at their top pair LHD spot (still not a top pair D-man, but it's better than Jack McCabe) while picking up a competent third line RW who had his best years in Buffalo.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 09
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Good job by Buffalo. Also makes sense for Minnesota but Buffalo wins this one.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Good job by Buffalo. Also makes sense for Minnesota but Buffalo wins this one.


i don't like it for Minnesota.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 14
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i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 18
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Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 31
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Boterill has awoken. Great move for Buffalo
30 jun 2017 à 12 h 44
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Quoting: ricochetii
Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.


More likely Granlund and Niederreiter asking for big extensions.
30 jun 2017 à 13 h 15
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I really like this deal for Buffalo, even if biased since had Pom back in the day before he started on a fantasy league... Scandella has scored double digit goals before so really like getting him as well... Ennis is kinda small, guess he can bunk with Spurgeon now... Never liked Foligno or whatever, glad I wont have to see the players shipped here in the West anymore smile. I think Pom can get back to form perhaps or least chip in about 20 goals... Game might be getting faster, though I still don't think a guy as small as Tyler can hold up to the physical play in the West. At least the Sabres are making an effort to improve, Wild probably did this to free up cap space to sign somebody or for another trade/deal. Nice to see Pom going back home, even if they say you can't go home again wink. Either way Buffalo's chances to win the draft lottery just took a hit wink.
30 jun 2017 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Quoting: rangersandislesfan


i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


fair enough. And i'm not saying they're bad, none of these guys are bad, they just aren't as good as Scandella if you ask me.
30 jun 2017 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: loganreid
Quoting: ricochetii
Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.


More likely Granlund and Niederreiter asking for big extensions.


Yes, but I'm wondering if they'll be moving out a center or upgrading a forward now.
I don't think extensions are pressing concerns, with everyone but Koivu being RFA, but you never know.
30 jun 2017 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
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True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


fair enough. And i'm not saying they're bad, none of these guys are bad, they just aren't as good as Scandella if you ask me.


Yeah he is probably the best player in this deal if Pom don't regain his form... I wonder if Foligno or so is a RFA when does the new team have to tender him an offer or lose him as UFA? I thought that deadline already passed before he was traded... So did he even get a tender offer to retain him before they shipped him? Wild might just let him walk if they are that desperate to free up cap space. Looks real good for Buffalo, Ennis is too small he will probably get banged up/hurt playing in the West anyways. Maybe a short D-man like Spurgeon or somebody can avoid injuries better especially with hybrid icing... Yet Versteeg when he was on Kings got hurt or banged up pretty quickly don't think he would ever have lasted a season... Still mad they traded Zykov in that deal, made sure they fired Dean after that smile.
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Quoting: rangersandislesfan


i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


Quoting: DarylthePony
Quoting: rangersandislesfan


It's not that much of a savings. The Sabres qualified Foligno & if he decides to go thru arbitration I'm guessing he'll be around 3.5-4m per season. Minnesota is only gonna see 1-1.5m savings.
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Quoting: Buffalobob
Quoting: DarylthePony


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


Quoting: DarylthePony
Quoting: rangersandislesfan


It's not that much of a savings. The Sabres qualified Foligno & if he decides to go thru arbitration I'm guessing he'll be around 3.5-4m per season. Minnesota is only gonna see 1-1.5m savings.


I don't see how Foligno is going to see $3.5-4 m, even with arbitration. He made @2.25m and his scoring hasn't really improved since his previous contract ... I think he'll get $2.5-3m max. He might even get paid less then his previous contract as that "potential factor" has faded. You'll pay a guy on the upswing some more in hopes that he keeps going up. Foligno has already leveled off.

I think it's a pretty darn even deal, when you consider the cap space the Wild needed, the age of Pominville, and the pick. Scandella is the best in the trade, but Min got younger and even if Ennis can't keep up in the west, he can put up decent numbers and there's plenty of teams in the East that can use him. If he can stay health long enough to put up some points like he has in the past, he can be moved to add to the value of the trade. putting the Wild over the top.

Foligno is 25, and big. Even if he's just a 3rd or 4th line guy he's still can grow WITH the core (Niederreiter, Granlund, Zucker, Coyle, Spurgeon, and Brodin) of the Wild team, and Ennis at 27 fits in there too. Unless you expect to win this year, Pominville was very expendable. Especially if his numbers drop off. Either way Ennis' career SHOULD be longer, and potentially as productive.
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Have to say this deal isn't as lopsided as everyone seems to think. The wild opened up cap space for their important players and got rid of some old big contracts. Foligno won't be making more than 3M. Buffalo go the better players but in context the Wild now get to resign their important players and maybe con squeeze in Foligno.
 
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