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Blockbuster Prospect Trade

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2023
Publié: 28 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The basis of this trade is two elite assets at positions of need for an elite center prospect. Anaheim already has Zegras and Carlsson, and Gaucher is a better future fit for 3C than McTavish is.
Transactions
CAR
  1. LaCombe, Jackson
  2. McTavish, Mason
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 629 417 $450 000 $2 500 000 $2 870 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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28 août 2023 à 15 h 19
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popcorn
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 21
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“Gaucher is a better future fit for 3C than McTavish is”

(Plays McTavish as 4C)

…so why not just trade for Gaucher?
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 22
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CAR is really high on Jarvis and I think they'd have to be blown away to move him. Not..whatever this is.
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 22
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This serves little purpose for carolina. Jarvis isn’t a prospect anymore either.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 23
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
“Gaucher is a better future fit for 3C than McTavish is”

(Plays McTavish as 4C)

…so why not just trade for Gaucher?


Same reason why they played KK at 4C the 1st season he was here. Eventually the center order will become Aho-McTavish-KK-Staal.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 25
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Can't see why Carolina considers this.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 26
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Absolutely not from ANA. McTavish is a core piece not available. Nikishkin plays the deepest position in ANA’s prospect pool where Mintyukov and Zellweger play. It’s honestly probably not in either team’s interest
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 29
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Absolutely not from ANA. McTavish is a core piece not available. Nikishkin plays the deepest position in ANA’s prospect pool where Mintyukov and Zellweger play. It’s honestly probably not in either team’s interest


Nikishin is likely better than either Mintyukov or Zellweger. Part of me wonders if Zellweger is better off as a premium bottom-pair piece with offense a la DeAngelo in the long run considering the size limitations.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 31
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Very fair package. Cheers for the non homerism lol. But I think MacT is untouchable, like other big stud Fs Beniers, Wyatt Johnson...
28 août 2023 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: ginandtacos
CAR is really high on Jarvis and I think they'd have to be blown away to move him. Not..whatever this is.


How's about the fact that McTavish is younger, plays a more valueable position, and already outproduces Jarvis..... McTavish > Jarvis alone

Then this ACGM has us adding a pick on top of that, so not happening.
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 33
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Nikishin is likely better than either Mintyukov or Zellweger. Part of me wonders if Zellweger is better off as a premium bottom-pair piece with offense a la DeAngelo in the long run considering the size limitations.


Says who? Carolina fans who I’m sure are watching a ton of KHL and Junior hockey? I haven’t seen Nikishin, but I’m just one quick search he’s Athletic’s 36th best prospect, while Minty and Zell are 26 and 28. Is that always right? Hell no. But why move one of your best young players for a 3rd LD prospect. This is silly and you know it
28 août 2023 à 15 h 35
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How's about the fact that McTavish is younger, plays a more valueable position, and already outproduces Jarvis..... McTavish > Jarvis alone

Then this ACGM has us adding a pick on top of that, so not happening.


The big problem with this analysis is the fact that you're ignoring the Nikishin inclusion. Nikishin has the potential to be a true 1D.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
How's about the fact that McTavish is younger, plays a more valueable position, and already outproduces Jarvis..... McTavish > Jarvis alone

Then this ACGM has us adding a pick on top of that, so not happening.


I mean you aren't just adding a pick, you are getting a phenomenal defensive prospect back
28 août 2023 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
Nikishin is likely better than either Mintyukov or Zellweger. Part of me wonders if Zellweger is better off as a premium bottom-pair piece with offense a la DeAngelo in the long run considering the size limitations.


Mints and Zellweger are both top 25 prospects in the league on multiple prospect power rankings, so where exactly are you pulling that assessment from?
28 août 2023 à 15 h 39
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Says who? Carolina fans who I’m sure are watching a ton of KHL and Junior hockey? I haven’t seen Nikishin, but I’m just one quick search he’s Athletic’s 36th best prospect, while Minty and Zell are 26 and 28. Is that always right? Hell no. But why move one of your best young players for a 3rd LD prospect. This is silly and you know it


Nikishin seems hella underrated.
Was one of the best PLAYERS in the KHL last year.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 41
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The big problem with this analysis is the fact that you're ignoring the Nikishin inclusion. Nikishin has the potential to be a true 1D.


As does Mintyukov, whom we already have, and is ranked higher on every prospect power board I've seen. If Nikishin was right shot you might have a chance.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: Jded
Says who? Carolina fans


Basically every one. Pronman's top prospects from this morning:

https://theathletic.com/4805966/2023/08/28/nhl-players-prospects-under-23-connor-bedard/

Nikishin is 23 and Zellweger and Mintyukov come in at 59 and 61. The trade is dumb on the whole but that's not because Nikishin isn't worth trading for.
28 août 2023 à 15 h 43
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Nikishin seems hella underrated.
Was one of the best PLAYERS in the KHL last year.


That’s awesome. We can’t play 3 LD at the same time and have 2 studs at the position already. I’m not understanding how this means moving McTavish for another LD makes any sense
28 août 2023 à 15 h 48
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McTavish>Jarvis (If you disagree lets call it a wash and take skill and potential out even and its as easy as C>W)
LaCombe>Nikishin (I dont think this is controversial, can't say otherwise until we see Nikishin in America)

Why is ANA adding what will surely be an early second?

Easily, and I mean EASILY declined by the Ducks here
28 août 2023 à 15 h 53
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That’s awesome. We can’t play 3 LD at the same time and have 2 studs at the position already. I’m not understanding how this means moving McTavish for another LD makes any sense


Understandable. Seems like a decline from both teams.
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28 août 2023 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: CHAR
Basically every one. Pronman's top prospects from this morning:

https://theathletic.com/4805966/2023/08/28/nhl-players-prospects-under-23-connor-bedard/

Nikishin is 23 and Zellweger and Mintyukov come in at 59 and 61. The trade is dumb on the whole but that's not because Nikishin isn't worth trading for.


Not everyone, I've seen plenty of rankings stating Mints and Zells are in the same ballpark as Nikisin.

Here's one
28 août 2023 à 16 h 8
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McTavish>Jarvis (If you disagree lets call it a wash and take skill and potential out even and its as easy as C>W)
LaCombe>Nikishin (I dont think this is controversial, can't say otherwise until we see Nikishin in America)

Why is ANA adding what will surely be an early second?

Easily, and I mean EASILY declined by the Ducks here


I agree this is not great for Anaheim but LaCombe over Nikishin is not accurate. There are always concerns of dominance in the KHL translating to North America, but there's no arguing how good he is. The Athletic has him as the second best d-prospect behind Hughes.
28 août 2023 à 16 h 9
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Quoting: CHAR
Basically every one. Pronman's top prospects from this morning:

https://theathletic.com/4805966/2023/08/28/nhl-players-prospects-under-23-connor-bedard/

Nikishin is 23 and Zellweger and Mintyukov come in at 59 and 61. The trade is dumb on the whole but that's not because Nikishin isn't worth trading for.


That’s awesome. Even if he were better (absolutely not a consensus opinion), it doesn’t make it any more logical to move an elite young versatile forward who fits the profile of what we need for a prospect that plays our deepest position. A fun ACGM, but not a logical move for either team imo
28 août 2023 à 16 h 19
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This is BRUTAL for the Canes.
28 août 2023 à 16 h 20
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LaCombe>Nikishin (I dont think this is controversial, can't say otherwise until we see Nikishin in America)



Hahahahahaha WHAT??????

Bruh.
 
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