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ALL IN - 1 Last Time for The Core - 3 MUST Get YOUNGER Trades away

Créé par: Sidstick87
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 21 août 2023
Publié: 22 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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▐▐ *At the very least The Pens NEED ▐▐

▬ 1- Younger legit 3C :
Eller is NOT a 3C anymore, Need a 3C that can produce,
take pressure off of 87/71, & play Top 6 Center if 87/71 are out

▬ 1- Younger Top 6 to 9 RW Forward :
Can NOT have a Top 6 or 9 of 95% 30+yr olds,
MUST have at least some young Forward legs

▬ 1- 3rd Pairing RHD :
Must have a Vet 3- RHD w/ POJ or Smith,
Ruhwedel is a #7 on a Playoff type team.

▬ 1- #2 or #3 Goalie :
Liked Ned as a #2 w/ DeSmith but Not now as our only option

▬ 1- Younger Top 9 LWer :
I love our 4th line & our Depth but we Need 3rd Liners


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*How The Pens should Look at Team - (bf these Trades)

1} - Guentzel ▬ SID ▬ __________
2} - Smith ▬ GENO ▬ Rakell
3} - ________▬ _________▬ Rusty
4} - DOC ▬ Eller ▬ Acciari
13} - Nieto

1} - MP28 ▬▬ EK65
2} - Graves ▬▬ Letang
3} - POJ/Smith ▬ __________
7/8}- _________ / Ruhwedel

G#1} - Jarry
G2/3} - ________ / Ned


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▐▐ {3} - Team Trade "Break-Down" - [PIT] - [VAN] - [NYI]

[PIT] get :
- RW- O. Wahlstrom
- RD- J. Woo

[VAN] get :
- LHD- T. Smith
- C/RW- J.G.P.
- RW- V. Puustinen
- 24' 2nd Rdr [NYI]

[NYI] get :
- RW- B. Boeser (w/ $.650 Retained)
- LW- F. Hallander


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Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Novak, Thomas
  2. Tomasino, Philip
Détails additionnels:
[PIT] Extends T. Novak :
- 3yrs @ $2.5m per
NSH
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Pickering, Owen
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
CONDITIONAL: 2nd Rdr
"ONLY IF" after 23'-24'
[RFA] Tomasino Re-Signs
"IF NOT" turns into :
2026 4th Round Pick
2.
PIT
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
NYI
    START of :
    {3} - TEAM TRADE
    [VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
    ▬"Break-Down"▬
    In Description Part
    3.
    PIT
    1. Boeser, Brock (650 000 $ retained)
    2. Woo, Jett
    Détails additionnels:
    (2nd) PART of :
    {3} - TEAM TRADE
    [VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
    ▬"Break-Down"▬
    In Description Part
    VAN
    4.
    PIT
      END of :
      {3} - TEAM TRADE
      [VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
      ▬"Break-Down"▬
      In Description Part
      NYI
      1. Boeser, Brock
      2. Hållander, Filip [Liste de réserve]
      5.
      BUF
      1. Broz, Tristan [Liste de réserve]
      2. Friedman, Mark
      3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
      Détails additionnels:
      CONDITIONAL: 3rd Rdr
      "ONLY IF" U.P.L. is on
      Roster all of [23'-24']
      "IF NOT" turns into :
      2026 6th Round Pick
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
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      Logo de NYR
      2025
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
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      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      2026
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de PIT
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2283 500 000 $81 029 300 $0 $212 500 $2 470 700 $

      Formation

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      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
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      UFA - 3
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Predators de Nashville
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Predators de Nashville
      800 000 $800 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
      AD, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      925 000 $925 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      900 000 $900 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      837 500 $837 500 $
      G
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      825 000 $825 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
      AD, C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Équipe de réserve
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (350 000 $$350K350 000 $$350K)
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DG
      UFA - 1
      800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
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      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DD
      RFA - 1
      775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
      DD
      UFA
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      785 000 $785 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 15
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      The issue with this trade is that the Islanders number one need is a speedy top six winger, and Boeser is not known for his foot speed. Also this organization won’t benefit from selling low on Pageau and Wahlstrom. Islanders decline imo.
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 15
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      Sabres decline, I don’t think they’re looking to move Jokiharju
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 15
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      Sabres have almost no reason to make that trade. No need to trade joker for an older worse dman. No need for another center prospect. No need to get rid of UPL who will be the backup/1b. It makes them worse overall.
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 15
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      Canucks pass.IMHO.
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 29
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      Conditional picks based on a player re-signing aren't allowed by the NHL anymore (even when they were legal, I can't recall ever seeing one applied to an RFA before).

      Regardless, NSH declines. Pickering would be nice to have, but not at the expense of Tomasino. The 2nd and Nylander isn't enough for Novak. Overall the value's tilted too much in PIT's direction.
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 31
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      Buffalo declines, I wouldn't Trade Joker alone for that. If Joker can find consistency in his game he will atleast be a good 3RD. He can play the minutes and is a really good skater. There were some nights last year I thought he was there best Dman. Needs to find that consistency IMO
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 40
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      You should brush up on what conditions are allowed.

      Also buffalo obviously declines
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      22 août 2023 à 9 h 46
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      Too much going on here. Dubas has made his moves, time for training camp to play out.

      Top-six is going to be fine.
      22 août 2023 à 9 h 56
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      I at least like the ideas but if those players were available they would have alrdy been moved
      22 août 2023 à 10 h 26
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      Hallander just signed a 5 year deal in his native Sweden, No team is touching him. As his NHL days are pretty much through.
      22 août 2023 à 10 h 38
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      Quoting: wojme
      Sabres have almost no reason to make that trade. No need to trade joker for an older worse dman. No need for another center prospect. No need to get rid of UPL who will be the backup/1b. It makes them worse overall.


      Yeah pretty much this. Sabres have no need to send assets away without the return of a legitimate prospect, regardless of NHL role. Broz is probably Alex Nylander.
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      22 août 2023 à 10 h 40
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      Quoting: BUFF36
      Buffalo declines, I wouldn't Trade Joker alone for that. If Joker can find consistency in his game he will atleast be a good 3RD. He can play the minutes and is a really good skater. There were some nights last year I thought he was there best Dman. Needs to find that consistency IMO


      I won't take this space to fluff Joker, but he's more useful than the trade insinuates.
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      22 août 2023 à 10 h 42
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      Quoting: JLance
      I won't take this space to fluff Joker, but he's more useful than the trade insinuates.


      Everyone needs a good fluff now and then!
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      22 août 2023 à 11 h 13
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      Yeah, terribly unrealistic and ill conceived.
      22 août 2023 à 11 h 18
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      Quoting: BUFF36
      Buffalo declines, I wouldn't Trade Joker alone for that. If Joker can find consistency in his game he will atleast be a good 3RD. He can play the minutes and is a really good skater. There were some nights last year I thought he was there best Dman. Needs to find that consistency IMO


      I was gonna say roughly this, although I'm not as interested in seeing jokiharju here either way. The package that was offered doesn't get a young right handed d, that is already a bottom pair (with middle pair ceiling) nhl player.
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      22 août 2023 à 11 h 37
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      NSH declines. NSH has no need for Pickering as they already have a wealth of defense prospects, and with the signing of Molendyk this offseason, Pickering would very much a luxury and not one worth paying for at the cost of Tomasino, who has a possibility of flourishing in the top 6 of NSH playing a system that works for how he has played in the past under Burnette. Additionally, NSH isn't going to part with Novak for Nylander and a 2nd as it isn't enough to get Novak.
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      22 août 2023 à 12 h 13
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      Quoting: wojme
      Sabres have almost no reason to make that trade. No need to trade joker for an older worse dman. No need for another center prospect. No need to get rid of UPL who will be the backup/1b. It makes them worse overall.


      ^this

      Sabres definitely decline
      26 août 2023 à 13 h 56
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      Quoting: Not_Isles5513
      The issue with this trade is that the Islanders number one need is a speedy top six winger, and Boeser is not known for his foot speed. Also this organization won’t benefit from selling low on Pageau and Wahlstrom. Islanders decline imo.


      Very Fair, My thinking on Trade is other than that I LOVE Wahlstrom & think he could have a break-out yr...
      Is that Lou is looking for an upgrade Top 6 Winger & as a Pens fan, I wouldnt like Boeser on Isles & think he could be great there
      26 août 2023 à 13 h 56
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      Quoting: sabresparaavida
      Sabres decline, I don’t think they’re looking to move Jokiharju


      Fair, I just see 4- Starting RD on BUF
      26 août 2023 à 21 h 41
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      Fair, I just see 4- Starting RD on BUF


      If you’re including Lybushkin, he was traded, and if you’re including Dahlin, then we only have 2 starting calibre LD. That doesn’t want me to trade someone who 21 minutes a game for us last year.
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