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Realistic Laf Trade

Créé par: EQuinn31
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2023
Publié: 9 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Agree to sign contract after trade. 3 years 4.5 AAV
NYR
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
In my opinion, this is what Montreal would have to give up for Lafrenière. Which I wouldn't want to do this as a Habs fan. I still think the NYR would want more on top of this as well.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $67 173 749 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $16 326 251 $
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AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
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RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 27
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Laffy doesn't have 1st OA draft pick value anymore.
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 28
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 29
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Can Dach play on the right wing? Because there would otherwise be no room for him at center on the Rangers.

Regardless, I greatly appreciate that this is not another Josh Anderson and C-level prospect for Laf trade proposal lol.
9 août 2023 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Rangers014
Can Dach play on the right wing? Because there would otherwise be no room for him at center on the Rangers.

Regardless, I greatly appreciate that this is not another Josh Anderson and C-level prospect for Laf trade proposal lol.


Yeah I anticipated Dach moving to the Wing for this one lol. Everyone thinks Laf is worth nothing at this stage, which his value is down sure but he still has time to develop. Hes been in a crap situation the last 2 years imo
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 31
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Dach>laf at this point
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Laffy doesn't have 1st OA draft pick value anymore.


I still think the Rangers would be looking for that in return, even though he isn't worth that. A team is going to have to overpay massively for him for the Rangers to do it
9 août 2023 à 15 h 32
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It would have to be an overpay. You are correct but this is extreme. The Habs are still a lottery team the next 2 years especially if they lose Dach.

It will have to be something like Guhle/Dach. You are correct but i doubt much more is added as the Rangers want immediate cheap help and the Habs arent giving up valuable futures.

There is no trade fit here.

And, that doesnt even mention all the pressure Laffy faces in Montreal.
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At this point, I don't think I would swap Dach for Laf 1 for 1. Even through Dach had a slow start to his development as well, he's taken big strides forward and is very good at his 200 foot game.

Laf hasn't shown any of that yet. He's poor defensively and his offensive impact is anemic, and his skating hasn't improved enough since he was drafted.
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Don't see the Habs doing this, their 2025 first will probably be too early to reasonably give up
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 33
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Dach>laf at this point


Agreed. Some Habs fans are delusional for the trade potential for Laffy. This is a habs fan talking too.

I'm tired of the Laffy to Montreal crap lol
9 août 2023 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
It would have to be an overpay. You are correct but this is extreme. The Habs are still a lottery team the next 2 years especially if they lose Dach.

It will have to be something like Guhle/Dach. You are correct but i doubt much more is added as the Rangers want immediate cheap help and the Habs arent giving up valuable futures.

There is no trade fit here.

And, that doesnt even mention all the pressure Laffy faces in Montreal.


I agree 100%. I think its way too much, but that is what they would have to give up to acquire him. Not Anderson, Beck and a 3rd lol (like i've seen)
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I still think the Rangers would be looking for that in return, even though he isn't worth that. A team is going to have to overpay massively for him for the Rangers to do it


Laffy still has good value. But there's no way it's as high as when he was drafted.

Today, is Laffy a better player than Dach? Then you're adding a 1st and a 2nd.

That being said, I believe Laffy has the higher ceiling. He's still 21 and should improve.

Rangers should keep him.
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 35
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I can’t see us declining this tbh this is a really good offer, bravo!
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
At this point, I don't think I would swap Dach for Laf 1 for 1. Even through Dach had a slow start to his development as well, he's taken big strides forward and is very good at his 200 foot game.

Laf hasn't shown any of that yet. He's poor defensively and his offensive impact is anemic, and his skating hasn't improved enough since he was drafted.


Right there with you on that. Dach > Laf by a mile. I just wanted to show what the Habs would have to give up to get him, and it isn't worth it at this stage.
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Agreed. Some Habs fans are delusional for the trade potential for Laffy. This is a habs fan talking too.

I'm tired of the Laffy to Montreal crap lol


Its never made any sense. Its actually boring hype.

Quoting: Despise
I can’t see us declining this tbh this is a really good offer, bravo!


lol I mean it's clearly a troll but sure believe in fairy tales
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I can’t see us declining this tbh this is a really good offer, bravo!


Massive overpay for the Habs lol, which I don't see them doing. Thats how highly they value Laffy in my opinion. Just doesn't make sense for them to trade at this stage
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Massive overpay for the Habs lol, which I don't see them doing. Thats how highly they value Laffy in my opinion. Just doesn't make sense for them to trade at this stage


It is a massive overpay for sure but that’s the cost for him, we need him more than we need random prospects.
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Its never made any sense. Its actually boring hype.


A young player born in Montreal, bring him home! (thats the argument lol)

Same thing with PLD. Whenever a Quebec player is involved, everyone wants them in Montreal
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It is a massive overpay for sure but that’s the cost for him, we need him more than we need random prospects.


Yeah you guys have a 3-4 year window opened now that you have to go for it
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Quoting: SharkTank
Laffy still has good value. But there's no way it's as high as when he was drafted.

Today, is Laffy a better player than Dach? Then you're adding a 1st and a 2nd.

That being said, I believe Laffy has the higher ceiling. He's still 21 and should improve.

Rangers should keep him.


Agreed. Rangers shouldn't be shopping him. Let him develop. I said the same thing about Slafkovsky, start him in Laval and let him develop. He's 19 lol. Don't need Galchenyuk pt 2
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Agreed. Rangers shouldn't be shopping him. Let him develop. I said the same thing about Slafkovsky, start him in Laval and let him develop. He's 19 lol. Don't need Galchenyuk pt 2


Definitely don't need Gally part 2! Hehe
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Yeah you guys have a 3-4 year window opened now that you have to go for it


Carolina/Jersey will be mainstays for years after their tidy offseason business. Panarin regression might be already here. They have an awesome backend with Miller/Fox and Shesty though. They'll always be a threat come the playoffs to go on a run with that type of build from the net out for awhile.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Its never made any sense. Its actually boring hype.



lol I mean it's clearly a troll but sure believe in fairy tales


Its just plain bigotry that we see on this site way too often.

The "oh he is french so the habs definitely want him". Is lazy and not rooted in facts.

If you go back and look at trades where the habs netted more francophones than they gave up and you have literally 1 NHL example in almost 20 years (drouin) and a coupke minor league deals.

Its not something they do in fact they have actually largely avoided it over the years
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9 août 2023 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: Black61
Its just plain bigotry that we see on this site way too often.

The "oh he is french so the habs definitely want him". Is lazy and not rooted in facts.

If you go back and look at trades where the habs netted more francophones than they gave up and you have literally 1 NHL example in almost 20 years (drouin) and a coupke minor league deals.

Its not something they do in fact they have actually largely avoided it over the years


I would be interested in Laffy it didn't cost an arm and a leg to get him. He is young, and we've seen the effect MSL has on players. Hoping Newhook pans out like Dach has so far.
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Quoting: EQuinn31
Yeah I anticipated Dach moving to the Wing for this one lol. Everyone thinks Laf is worth nothing at this stage, which his value is down sure but he still has time to develop. Hes been in a crap situation the last 2 years imo


I'm hoping the new coaching staff will use Laf properly and get him to reach his potential, but I guess we will see. Interesting trade idea for sure.
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