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Realistic Laf Trade

Créé par: EQuinn31
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2023
Publié: 9 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Agree to sign contract after trade. 3 years 4.5 AAV
NYR
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
In my opinion, this is what Montreal would have to give up for Lafrenière. Which I wouldn't want to do this as a Habs fan. I still think the NYR would want more on top of this as well.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $67 173 749 $1 170 000 $4 210 000 $16 326 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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9 août 2023 à 15 h 43
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In what universe is that realistic?
I don't even think Dach for Lafrenière one for one is a good deal for Habs
9 août 2023 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: Black61
Its just plain bigotry that we see on this site way too often.

The "oh he is french so the habs definitely want him". Is lazy and not rooted in facts.

If you go back and look at trades where the habs netted more francophones than they gave up and you have literally 1 NHL example in almost 20 years (drouin) and a coupke minor league deals.

Its not something they do in fact they have actually largely avoided it over the years


And that was Bergevin's ego doing the move. Hughes is a people's person. Lawyer/agent. He builds bridges not destroys them. He doesnt seem to be the type to put players in situations they won't be able to thrive through. There's a reason he went back to Petry as they left on good terms. Whereas Bergevin would never bring back anyone he culled.
9 août 2023 à 15 h 44
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Quoting: p1015983
In what universe is that realistic?
I don't even think Dach for Lafrenière one for one is a good deal for Habs


This is to show what the Rangers value Laffy at and what it would take for MTL to acquire him. A massive overpay
9 août 2023 à 15 h 53
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I'm hoping the new coaching staff will use Laf properly and get him to reach his potential, but I guess we will see. Interesting trade idea for sure.


Trust me, as a Caps fan who just had Lavy for the last few years - he is not one of the coaches who will have a long leash, especially for younger players. I was shocked the Rangers hired him (taking into account a) the poor player development they already have and b) the amount of untapped potential their young players have)...
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9 août 2023 à 16 h 20
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Quoting: All_Knowing
Trust me, as a Caps fan who just had Lavy for the last few years - he is not one of the coaches who will have a long leash, especially for younger players. I was shocked the Rangers hired him (taking into account a) the poor player development they already have and b) the amount of untapped potential their young players have)...


I've seen that about Laviolette, but I think the assistant coaches they hired will help with player development. Read good things about Michael Peca and Dan Muse in that regard.
I'm also sure Drury knows the importance to the team getting Laf and Kakko to reach their potential will be, and stressed that during the interview process.
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9 août 2023 à 16 h 28
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I've seen that about Laviolette, but I think the assistant coaches they hired will help with player development. Read good things about Michael Peca and Dan Muse in that regard.
I'm also sure Drury knows the importance to the team getting Laf and Kakko to reach their potential will be, and stressed that during the interview process.


Agreed.

Peca is awesome. I remember how impactful he was with the Caps. Really, really helped the Caps centers (specifically Kuzy - so much so that Kuzy had time on PK and faceoff percentage skyrocketed). Helped a bunch with faceoffs, defensive positioning, and overall hockey IQ.
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9 août 2023 à 16 h 29
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That's certainly an overpay for LAF. Just offer 4.3m on an offer sheet, which costs just a second rounder, which the Rangers may not afford.
9 août 2023 à 16 h 35
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Looks about right. Nice job. Lots of folks revealing themselves in the comments.
9 août 2023 à 17 h 1
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Given that Laf is unsigned and NYR only have a certain amount of cap to sign him, I'd say his value is tied to how much an OS pry's him away from NY.

NYR can say his value is a million 1sts if they want but if he gets OS'd to an amount that NYR can't match within 10 days by trading Goodrow, etc, that's his actual true value then. Not the millions 1sts.

Honestly his actual value is what anyone is willing to pay for him and judging by what we've seen on here, a 1st and an ok prospect is probably the highest Ive seen anyone willing to do.
9 août 2023 à 17 h 30
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Lafreniere is clearly the better player, but I don't think the difference is a 1st + 2nd.
9 août 2023 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: SharkTank
Laffy doesn't have 1st OA draft pick value anymore.


Go look at the Dach trade, that's the only comparable. Laf's 1st 3 years were better than Dach's. Make of that what you will.
9 août 2023 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts
Go look at the Dach trade, that's the only comparable. Laf's 1st 3 years were better than Dach's. Make of that what you will.


I did. Sorry. Laffy doesn't have the same value he had when he was drafted. And I'm a Laffy supporter. I still think he can be a star.
9 août 2023 à 18 h 26
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Quoting: EQuinn31
Yeah you guys have a 3-4 year window opened now that you have to go for it


Our window is open for however long we have Igor and fox, they won’t rebuild once Panarin zib and kreider retire, they’ll target free agents and trade a lot. NY RARELY rebuilds, it’s the Dolan way. Guys like othmann and Perreault will solidify top 6 when open and we’ll have to make sure Laf and Kakko can be saved
 
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