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Créé par: CorrosionRF
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 24 juill. 2023
Publié: 1 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Idk I’m just having fun
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Sillinger, Cole
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Top 10 protected. Structured like the Horvat deal, but slightly better cause Lindholm is worth more.
CBJ
  1. Lindholm, Elias
Détails additionnels:
They have Fantilli so idk if they'd even have any interest anymore, but we all know how much fun Babcock has with young players so you never know.
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Vladar, Daniel
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
3.
CGY
  1. Ritchie, Calum [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
3rd is take it or leave it idrc. Ritchie won't make an nhl impact for a few years and the Avs need people who can make an impact now.
COL
  1. Backlund, Mikael (2 675 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Avs finished bottom 16 in penalty kill last year, Backlund is a pk machine. I think this might still put the Avs over the cap but the Flames could take cap back if needed. Backlund just wants to win and would probably resign for cheap if he thought this was the place to do it.
4.
CGY
  1. Kyrou, Christian
  2. Suter, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Does Ryan Suter waive for Canada.... Probably not. I think this is fair for Hanifin, probably late 1st, decent prospect and a cap dump.
DAL
  1. Hanifin, Noah
Détails additionnels:
Dallas d-core is sketchy as F. Hanifin would be a much needed improvement.
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1 août 2023 à 2 h 59
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No chance
1 août 2023 à 3 h 55
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Pass on Roslovic, replace him with another prospect
1 août 2023 à 7 h 46
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No chance that COL deal sounded fair in your own head even 5 minutes after posting this. Backlund for the 27th OA in the draft from a few weeks ago “plus” a 3rd rd pick hahahah
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1 août 2023 à 8 h 6
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I wouldn't mind Lindholm if his contract was going to come in under $8M and the cost was some combination of 2 or 3 of Peeke, Boqvist, Dumais, LDBB, Ceulemans, Knazko, Richard, and a 2025 1st or something. I've no interest in trading any of the top young guys or 4-5 prospects from the pool. Lindholm isn't an 80 point Selke candidate anymore and was only that briefly to begin with.
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1 août 2023 à 9 h 14
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I wouldn't mind Lindholm if his contract was going to come in under $8M and the cost was some combination of 2 or 3 of Peeke, Boqvist, Dumais, LDBB, Ceulemans, Knazko, Richard, and a 2025 1st or something. I've no interest in trading any of the top young guys or 4-5 prospects from the pool. Lindholm isn't an 80 point Selke candidate anymore and was only that briefly to begin with.


I was in on the Lindholm buzz for awhile, but I’ve gotten away from that.

IMO, I’d prefer we move for Backlund, who can be a better stop-gap for a year to give Fantilli some breathing room. If he wants to sign short and cheap after that, all the better.

He profiles as a slightly better version of Jenner, albeit he’s also a true C, and has the age concern. I wouldn’t give up as much as OP wants, but with retention, I’d be willing to send Roslovic plus a piece or two, if it means (finally) lowering Boone’s ice time to limit the injury risk.
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1 août 2023 à 9 h 14
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If the avs were going to make that deal they wouldn't have brought in johansen and colton... I'm sure cgy would have wanted the pick itself at the draft so they could have gotten their own guy
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1 août 2023 à 9 h 29
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Quoting: dopplsan
I was in on the Lindholm buzz for awhile, but I’ve gotten away from that.

IMO, I’d prefer we move for Backlund, who can be a better stop-gap for a year to give Fantilli some breathing room. If he wants to sign short and cheap after that, all the better.

He profiles as a slightly better version of Jenner, albeit he’s also a true C, and has the age concern. I wouldn’t give up as much as OP wants, but with retention, I’d be willing to send Roslovic plus a piece or two, if it means (finally) lowering Boone’s ice time to limit the injury risk.


The ridiculous proposals from Flames fans and that dummy Portzline feeding the fire really killed the fun of thinking about it almost instantly.

Most proposals on the site are getting that way recently. Seems like any proposal for any player of significance is met with the same "It'll take Jiricek, Fantilli, Johnson or some combination of the 3 plus a 1st to make that trade". I keep trying to remind myself that it's a good thing that the Jackets have great prospects that people want to rip off, but it doesn't make for much fun when reading posts.
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1 août 2023 à 9 h 50
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The ridiculous proposals from Flames fans and that dummy Portzline feeding the fire really killed the fun of thinking about it almost instantly.

Most proposals on the site are getting that way recently. Seems like any proposal for any player of significance is met with the same "It'll take Jiricek, Fantilli, Johnson or some combination of the 3 plus a 1st to make that trade". I keep trying to remind myself that it's a good thing that the Jackets have great prospects that people want to rip off, but it doesn't make for much fun when reading posts.


Lol, welcome to CapFriendly, right?

An older C with a few Sellers-worthy high-end seasons producing alongside great talent, who is on the verge of getting what is likely going to be a bad contract, and oh yeah - he’s wushu-washy on whether he even wants to stay. Frankly, I don’t see why his price should be much higher than Horvat - a roster player, a protected 1st, and a good prospect.
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1 août 2023 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: dopplsan
I was in on the Lindholm buzz for awhile, but I’ve gotten away from that.

IMO, I’d prefer we move for Backlund, who can be a better stop-gap for a year to give Fantilli some breathing room. If he wants to sign short and cheap after that, all the better.

He profiles as a slightly better version of Jenner, albeit he’s also a true C, and has the age concern. I wouldn’t give up as much as OP wants, but with retention, I’d be willing to send Roslovic plus a piece or two, if it means (finally) lowering Boone’s ice time to limit the injury risk.


I was on the same train. After drafting fantilli 1C isn’t as drastic of a need. I think between fantilli, Kent Johnson, and sillinger they have 2 future top 6 Cs. I agree I would rather have backlund. He shouldn’t cost as much and can be a stop gap/mentor for the young centers
1 août 2023 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pass on Roslovic, replace him with another prospect


Roslovic is in there to make the salary work. Sillinger and a first is enough for lindholm although I think it’s less likely the jackets pursue him now.
1 août 2023 à 11 h 4
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Roslovic is in there to make the salary work. Sillinger and a first is enough for lindholm although I think it’s less likely the jackets pursue him now.


How can you not make the cap work without Roslovic included? According to CF, Columbus has $4,729,167 cap space with 24 signed players on their roster. Assuming All 3 of Werenski, Bean, and Danforth are activated from LTIR you would be sending at least 1 player will be sent down (my guess is Blankenburg). That would add another 825k in available cap space for a total of $5,554,167. Given that Lindholm makes less than 5M Columbus can absolutely fit him in. And if you are that worried about performance bonuses Calgary could absolutely retain.

Also I completely disagree that Sillinger and a protected 1st is enough for a full season of Lindholm (where you will likely be extending him). Sillinger is still a prospect with high potential but he he's about as valuable as Boqvist was when you traded 1 year of Jones to Chicago.
1 août 2023 à 11 h 38
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The ridiculous proposals from Flames fans and that dummy Portzline feeding the fire really killed the fun of thinking about it almost instantly.

Most proposals on the site are getting that way recently. Seems like any proposal for any player of significance is met with the same "It'll take Jiricek, Fantilli, Johnson or some combination of the 3 plus a 1st to make that trade". I keep trying to remind myself that it's a good thing that the Jackets have great prospects that people want to rip off, but it doesn't make for much fun when reading posts.


I thought this proposal here was quite reasonable though, isn't it? And every team has fans on here who are insane when it comes to proposals, both over and undervaluing players
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1 août 2023 à 11 h 40
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I was in on the Lindholm buzz for awhile, but I’ve gotten away from that.

IMO, I’d prefer we move for Backlund, who can be a better stop-gap for a year to give Fantilli some breathing room. If he wants to sign short and cheap after that, all the better.

He profiles as a slightly better version of Jenner, albeit he’s also a true C, and has the age concern. I wouldn’t give up as much as OP wants, but with retention, I’d be willing to send Roslovic plus a piece or two, if it means (finally) lowering Boone’s ice time to limit the injury risk.


What kind of pieces would you trade for Backlund? I'd say that if Roslovic is included, he would be considered to have neutral value and just there for cap purposes
1 août 2023 à 11 h 59
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What kind of pieces would you trade for Backlund? I'd say that if Roslovic is included, he would be considered to have neutral value and just there for cap purposes


Roslovic, yes, and you could add Bemstrom, Foudy, or maybe Robinson. CBJ really need to clear out roster spots.

I’d be willing to include Bean, or maybe Boqvist, but would want to include a pick-swap in favor of CBJ. I just done see Backlund’s value as being near a 1st or so.
1 août 2023 à 12 h 7
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Roslovic, yes, and you could add Bemstrom, Foudy, or maybe Robinson. CBJ really need to clear out roster spots.

I’d be willing to include Bean, or maybe Boqvist, but would want to include a pick-swap in favor of CBJ. I just done see Backlund’s value as being near a 1st or so.


What kind of pick swap are you thinking then?
1 août 2023 à 12 h 29
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What kind of pick swap are you thinking then?


2nd for a 3rd? Not sure if retention is needed.
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Quoting: dopplsan
2nd for a 3rd? Not sure if retention is needed.


So you mean the Flames give up a 2nd and receive a 3rd in return?
1 août 2023 à 13 h 28
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So you mean the Flames give up a 2nd and receive a 3rd in return?


Yes
1 août 2023 à 13 h 29
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Yes


So the Flames give up the better player and the better pick in the trade? I’m not sure how that’s supposed to make any sense.
1 août 2023 à 14 h 24
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I thought this proposal here was quite reasonable though, isn't it? And every team has fans on here who are insane when it comes to proposals, both over and undervaluing players


I'm talking more about the 3rd OA+ and KJ+ asks that were getting posted repeatedly. Although, I'm not a fan of these proposals that involve Sillinger either. I'd move on in a heartbeat if the Flames drew a hard line on having him included in a trade.
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 28
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I'm talking more about the 3rd OA+ and KJ+ asks that were getting posted repeatedly. Although, I'm not a fan of these proposals that involve Sillinger either. I'd move on in a heartbeat if the Flames drew a hard line on having him included in a trade.


Well yeah those were never happening obviously, but that's just the mirror image of some CBJ fan proposals of like Roslovic, Peeke and a 3rd that I've seen on here. And for what it's worth I wouldn't want Sillinger included anyways, I'm not high on him at all
1 août 2023 à 14 h 55
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Calgary takes the Colorado deal and runs
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1 août 2023 à 16 h 25
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LOL! Simply no from Colorado. The logic isn't even there to make it reasonable.
 
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