27 juill. 2015
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheSummerofGeorge</b></div><div>CGY 100% should be willing to move Coronato for Meier. Ideally you'd try and make the trade without including him, but you have to at least be willing to include Coronato for a guy like Meier.
Matt Coronato is just a prospect who is not even signed yet (top unsigned college prospect playing out of Harvard----I think I've seen this film before, and I didn't like the ending). There is a chance he ends up being a better player than Meier, sure, but its not a good chance. And the chances that he ends up being better than Meier *during the Flames very limited contention window* are basically non-existent. We should have learned our lesson about overvaluing prospects in the Valimaki/Stone debacle.
Yes, Timo Meier has a $10M QO. That doesn't mean he has to get $10M. You could agree to a long term extension at a different number. You could take him to team elected arbitration in the 1st window in lieu of making the qualifying offer. You could trade his rights or do a sign and trade like we literally just did with Matthew Tkachuk (people were saying the same things about his QO before last year, too). You could just give him the $10M. Or you can even just let him walk if you really needed to (which wouldn't happen). But the fact he is a pending RFA is a good thing---team control, even with the $10MQO---is far better than no team control. And him being a pending RFA means you can convince SJ to eat money for this year. There are options, and it's a much better idea than going for a pure rental (like Patrick Kane, who many are hoping for in Flames Nation).
If you are willing to give up Coronato to convince SJ to eat 50%, you get a bona fide beast in Timo Meier for only the equivalent of $3M in a year when the Calgary Flames need to be all-in. Then you get team control and options beyond that. Timo Meier is a great player----you find the money elsewhere to fit him in for next year and beyond.
Matt Coronato is a very good prospect. He's far from a guarantee. He's not even a guarantee to be signed. And he may be able to play in the NHL next year. But his "prime" does not really fit the Flames current window. I don't care as much about having him cheap for 3 years if the Flames only have this year and next year in their legit contention window. Meier helps them win more than Coronato does.
That said, no chance I'm including Mangiapane to that deal. The point is to add a seriously missing piece to your roster. Not subtract from it at the same time. Coronato, the 1st, and some smaller pieces for Meier with $ retained makes a ton of sense to me.</div></div>
Thanks for the well thought out and respectful reply and description of your thoughts. I wish everyone replied like this on here. I agree with Mangi, I thought of another bit was trying to shed more salary for potentially signing Timo next year. Cheers,
I know I have fun on here and lots of silly trades and ideas. However in all seriousness, the only things that takes this current roster to the next level are:
1. Upgrade on top two Center. Lindholm is a stud, especially with two good Winger (Hubs and Mangs could push numbers up there maybe not like JG and MT), but the Center position drips off substancially, we go no where with Baclklund on the second line and not in his perfect shut down 3rd line role.
2. Coleman and Dube step up
3. Mangiapane continues his climb
4. We get and establish right shot RW, either from the cupboards or trade
5. And the long shot, Monahan has a resurgence, but I would be completely shocked he tops 35 point total if that-need to trade him for something while we still can.
Left side D and F 🥳 (Dman trade coming)
Trade one of our top 5 D, prospect and pic for a top 6 Right shot C (Dubois), hope that Ruzidka becomes the power RW we need and Pellitier rolls in on all cylinders. That leaves the RW, all Tofolli, Coleman, Mangiapane are all pretty much our choices for the top 6 RW...all left shots. Anyways just lots of IMO. Cheers, Go Flames, and hoping atleast half of what I suggested comes to fruition!