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Créé par: Turkish_Canuck
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2023
Publié: 19 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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MYERS, BEAUVILLIER AND SCHENN SHOULD ALL BE TRADED AT DEADLINE IF (AS EXPECTED) CANUCKS ARE OUT OF PLAYOFF RACE.
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VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Draft 2023 trade
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Canucks select Willander/Simashev/Wood
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VAN
  1. Lohrei, Mason
  2. Reilly, Mike
Détails additionnels:
Bruins fans - what's your verdict here? Value is fair to me considering the cap space savings for a player who was buried in the AHL last season.
BOS
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Caps fans - opinions?
To me Garland is the perfect cheap bounce back candidate with massive upside, he's genuinely capable of driving a 2nd or 3rd line by himself.
WSH
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Dufour, William
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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Islanders fans - thoughts? To me Bailey is a dump, seems fair value based on Cal Petersen dump.
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19 juin 2023 à 6 h 26
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Schenn is currently negotiating with Toronto and he's looking for term and trade protection, so if he ends up in Vancouver it's probably going to be the same deal. Reilly being buried in the AHL had to do with cap more than anything.

Reilly (even if he's just traded akone for FC) and Suter could be a good pick ups but I definitely don't think this team can afford not to make significant additions this offseason. The Bailey move in particular isn't a good idea. Another lost season probably means Pettersen and then Hughes asking for out.

This years questionable move by VAN management, I think is going to be Garland for Granlund along with paying Dumba a boatload.
19 juin 2023 à 6 h 26
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So Boston isn going to trade a prospect with top 4 upside to move Reilly? Not a chance. If Boston were to buyout Reilly it's a $333k cap hit for next season. Hardly worth giving up one of our better prospects.
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19 juin 2023 à 6 h 54
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I could see the caps going for Garland, but I doubt VAN is getting 2 3rds for him considering their cap situation. Maybe 1 3rd and a 5th.
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19 juin 2023 à 7 h 24
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Quoting: jazzykiwi
I could see the caps going for Garland, but I doubt VAN is getting 2 3rds for him considering their cap situation. Maybe 1 3rd and a 5th.


What do you mean considering our cap situation? We have an additional $7mil in cap now without moving Garland..
19 juin 2023 à 7 h 25
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So Boston isn going to trade a prospect with top 4 upside to move Reilly? Not a chance. If Boston were to buyout Reilly it's a $333k cap hit for next season. Hardly worth giving up one of our better prospects.


Fair enough, would appear I've definitely underrated Lorei. What would be the price for Reilly?
19 juin 2023 à 7 h 31
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Fair enough, would appear I've definitely underrated Lorei. What would be the price for Reilly?


I think they’d give you Gryz for taking Reilly. Otherwise they cut Reilly outright
19 juin 2023 à 7 h 50
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That would be a significant overpay for the 11th overall pick. Maybe as a draft day deal, if someone is available that CHI really wants, they might consider something like this. But, I don't think CHI's actual front office is frothing at the mouth over moving up in the draft as much as the fans and CHI beat writers are.
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19 juin 2023 à 8 h 35
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Why would the Islanders entertain this when they can just buy out Josh Bailey? Even if the cost to dump him is a 2nd rounder... Jack Rathbone is not worth Dufour and a 4th rounder. Not on this planet.
19 juin 2023 à 8 h 39
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All four of these trades significantly favor the Canucks. Hawks don't give up #35 to move up 8 spots. B's and Cap fans have chimed in already. Bailey takes a 2nd at most to dump. No way is Rathbone worth DuFour and a 4th.
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19 juin 2023 à 8 h 41
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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck
Fair enough, would appear I've definitely underrated Lorei. What would be the price for Reilly?


Ideally I think they'd like to give up something like a 4th or 5th in the '24 or '25 draft.
19 juin 2023 à 8 h 42
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I think they’d give you Gryz for taking Reilly. Otherwise they cut Reilly outright


Some team would give Boston at least a 2nd for Grz, so I don't see Boston using him to get out from Reilly.
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 0
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As a Caps fan I'd love to get Garland though I imagine he's maybe just 1 3rd to get. Sounds like he could get bought out.
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19 juin 2023 à 9 h 32
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Fair enough, would appear I've definitely underrated Lorei. What would be the price for Reilly?


If VAN wanted him they could just have him for FC
19 juin 2023 à 9 h 51
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As a Caps fan I'd love to get Garland though I imagine he's maybe just 1 3rd to get. Sounds like he could get bought out.


I don't think garland is a buyout candidate. That was only a rumor, because it seemed like the nucks were going to try to keep OEL
19 juin 2023 à 9 h 52
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As a Caps fan I'd love to get Garland though I imagine he's maybe just 1 3rd to get. Sounds like he could get bought out.


Part of the main reason for the OEL buyout, was so that people like Garland and Boeser didn't need to be bought out and the Canucks wouldn't be bent over a barrel when negotiating
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19 juin 2023 à 10 h 13
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Some team would give Boston at least a 2nd for Grz, so I don't see Boston using him to get out from Reilly.


I don’t see Boston getting a second for Gryz unless they give a pick back. He’s worth a second, but I believe he’s one of the assets Sweeney will look to secure the cap flexibility needed. I’m ok cutting Reilly outright
19 juin 2023 à 10 h 17
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I wouldn’t pay for Garland, feel there are plenty of middle 6 forward UFAs and the caps have too many middle 6 guys. We need a couple of high end top 6 guys. Someone may pay for garland tho
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19 juin 2023 à 10 h 19
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I don’t see Boston getting a second for Gryz unless they give a pick back. He’s worth a second, but I believe he’s one of the assets Sweeney will look to secure the cap flexibility needed. I’m ok cutting Reilly outright


I'd rather buyout Reilly and deal with is $333k cap hit then move Grz for a 2nd. You've now created about $6.3 million in cap space and added a 2nd round pick to a depleted pool of draft capital. Using Grz to move Reilly, you've created $333k more in cap space but gained no draft capital.
19 juin 2023 à 10 h 22
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I'd rather buyout Reilly and deal with is $333k cap hit then move Grz for a 2nd. You've now created about $6.3 million in cap space and added a 2nd round pick to a depleted pool of draft capital. Using Grz to move Reilly, you've created $333k more in cap space but gained no draft capital.


Also saved cap space next year as well. I don’t think Gryz gets you a second, but I do think he can get you a 3rd. I’d trade Gryz and a 4th or Cole Spicer for a second rounder
19 juin 2023 à 10 h 59
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Also saved cap space next year as well. I don’t think Gryz gets you a second, but I do think he can get you a 3rd. I’d trade Gryz and a 4th or Cole Spicer for a second rounder


Cap is also expected to increase by $4 million after next season. The $1.3 million cap that you'd have on the books for Reilly wouldn't be much easier to consume with the $4 million cap increase.
19 juin 2023 à 13 h 44
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Cap is also expected to increase by $4 million after next season. The $1.3 million cap that you'd have on the books for Reilly wouldn't be much easier to consume with the $4 million cap increase.


Heard that before
19 juin 2023 à 15 h 17
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Heard that before


Players are expected finish paying off their escrow debt this upcoming season. This is what would cause the cap to jump up $4 million next season.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-salary-cap-could-increase-by-at-least-4-million-in-2023-24/c-336522332
20 juin 2023 à 9 h 30
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Isles aren't trading Dufour, especially as part of a cap dump.
 
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