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Selling Patience

Créé par: MNBassman
Équipe: 2023-24 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 12 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assume Columbus makes the subsequent moves to make the cap work, if it can…
Draftees and prospects on roster only for visual purposes.
This is all about taking a big step backwards in order to take 2-3 giant steps forward in 2-3 seasons.
I assume this team would pick in the top 15 of the ‘24 draft too…which adds more value to the return for Kaprizov
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
41 250 000 $
33 750 000 $
3775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Carlsson, Leo
3950 000 $
Edstrom, David
3950 000 $
Strbak, Maxim
3950 000 $
Judds, Favorite
3850 000 $
Yurov, Danila
3900 000 $
Khusnutdinov, Marat
3850 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Ceulemans, Corson
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Wild draft Carlsson or Smith at #3, David Edstrom at #21, Maxim Strbak at 35, and package their remaining two 2nds to target a Judd Bracket favorite.
CBJ
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Kaprizov, Kirill
  3. Zuccarello, Mats (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Basic breakdown: Kaprizov for the 1st (3oa) and 2nd (35oa) and Zucc and Addison for Ceulemans
2.
MIN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3083 500 000 $78 566 087 $0 $1 890 000 $4 933 913 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 2
Carlsson, Leo
950 000 $950 000 $
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance475 000 $$475K)
AG
RFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Yurov, Danila
900 000 $900 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 1
Edstrom, David
950 000 $950 000 $
Khusnutdinov, Marat
850 000 $850 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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855 000 $855 000 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Judds, Favorite
850 000 $850 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
863 333 $863 333 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Strbak, Maxim
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1

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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 39
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Man that would be a stupid move
12 juin 2023 à 15 h 41
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Trading Kaprizov? 🤔

Oh I see. 3OA .
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 44
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Man that would be a stupid move


That depends on how you feel about the #3 pick…
12 juin 2023 à 15 h 45
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That depends on how you feel about the #3 pick…


Love me some Leo Carlsson
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 47
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And the Jackets are now ~$6M over the cap plus whatever contract Addison signs. They also have no road towards upgrading their top 6C in the next few years. Pass.
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 49
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I’m guessing this is #28.
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 49
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Love me some Leo Carlsson


Hell yeah. Stud.
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 50
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Trading Kirill the Thrill would be a mistake... bird in the hand and all that...
12 juin 2023 à 15 h 50
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I’m guessing this is #28.


Trading Kap is ridiculous but this is fun.
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 51
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That depends on how you feel about the #3 pick…


I love Carlsson, but man this team would be baaaaaaaad next year. Unless you have some winger prospects in the pipeline that I don't know of, I wouldn't do this.
Unless the plan is to tank for 2OA and nab Eiserman.
12 juin 2023 à 15 h 54
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Quoting: jnowariak
I’m guessing this is #28.


Somewhere around there 😂
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12 juin 2023 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Trading Kirill the Thrill would be a mistake... bird in the hand and all that...


I get that, I really do…but a true #1 center to go with all the wing depth the Wild have in the cupboards would be incredible too.
12 juin 2023 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: jnowariak
Trading Kap is ridiculous but this is fun.


If he was 22/23 and/or the Wild were legit Cup contenders I wouldn’t consider it, but he’s (already) going to be 26 next year and only has 3 more (for sure) years of being on the Wild…
I actually think this makes a ton of long-term sense…IF and only IF Carlsson (or Smith) ends up as a star!
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 3
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The wild wouldn't sell tickets if they trade kaprizov. We already know what happened a few years ago during that losing season when fans stopped showing up and Russo along with other Minnesota media members reporters showing how wild were covering up sections.
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 4
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I love Carlsson, but man this team would be baaaaaaaad next year. Unless you have some winger prospects in the pipeline that I don't know of, I wouldn't do this.
Unless the plan is to tank for 2OA and nab Eiserman.


I know this team would be bad next year which (IMO) only adds to the overall value of this return. I am, after all, selling patience!
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 6
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The wild wouldn't sell tickets if they trade kaprizov. We already know what happened a few years ago during that losing season when fans stopped showing up and Russo along with other Minnesota media members reporters showing how wild were covering up sections.


Many fans would revolt, no doubt…but this team would be crazy good for a decade after this! I, for one, am completely sick of the Wild being mediocre and I would be more than willing to sacrifice a season or two for a decade of potential greatness!
12 juin 2023 à 16 h 10
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I get that, I really do…but a true #1 center to go with all the wing depth the Wild have in the cupboards would be incredible too.

and that's fine if you want to have the argument about trading him for someone like Ellias Petterson, but for an unproven draft pick is just crazy
12 juin 2023 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
and that's fine if you want to have the argument about trading him for someone like Ellias Petterson, but for an unproven draft pick is just crazy


I prefer to think of it as ballsy, not (completely) crazy!
12 juin 2023 à 16 h 12
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Many fans would revolt, no doubt…but this team would be crazy good for a decade after this! I, for one, am completely sick of the Wild being mediocre and I would be more than willing to sacrifice a season or two for a decade of potential greatness!


That's the thing, no prospect is a sure thing. Your giving up a franchise player, & as much I am sick of the same thing, giving up franchise player for a maybe is a no go for me. We thought the same of Rossi. Wiild owner also is too much money driven and you can't do that with this hockey fanbase. Look at how fans have turned on the Minnesota Twins
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 13
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If he was 22/23 and/or the Wild were legit Cup contenders I wouldn’t consider it, but he’s (already) going to be 26 next year and only has 3 more (for sure) years of being on the Wild…
I actually think this makes a ton of long-term sense…IF and only IF Carlsson (or Smith) ends up as a star!


Carlsson looks like the player we’ve wanted for sooooo long. But while I agree that Kap being 26 is a bit of a concern, I do think we’re really close. Next summer we should be in a position to do what Seattle did with Bjorkstrand and I’m a big believer in the prospect pool.

With our strength on the W, if Rossi can come in and be a real 2C, we’ll have a very strong lineup up front with a good mix of young and vet talent. It will look nothing like what we’ve seen the past 2 years. I’ve got my fingers crossed for Simashev or Edstrom at 21 and really looking forward to doing some damage with KK in 24-25.
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 24
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Carlsson looks like the player we’ve wanted for sooooo long. But while I agree that Kap being 26 is a bit of a concern, I do think we’re really close. Next summer we should be in a position to do what Seattle did with Bjorkstrand and I’m a big believer in the prospect pool.

With our strength on the W, if Rossi can come in and be a real 2C, we’ll have a very strong lineup up front with a good mix of young and vet talent. It will look nothing like what we’ve seen the past 2 years. I’ve got my fingers crossed for Simashev or Edstrom at 21 and really looking forward to doing some damage with KK in 24-25.


Edstrom would be perfect for the Wild at 21!

Carlsson, Ek, and Edstrom down the middle…moving Rossi and Khusnutdinov to the Wing with Boldy, Ohgren and Yurov, et al…I’m pretty sure we would forget all about Kaprizov, Zuccarello, and 1st round exists very easily and very soon!
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 35
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Edstrom would be perfect for the Wild at 21!

Carlsson, Ek, and Edstrom down the middle…moving Rossi and Khusnutdinov to the Wing with Boldy, Ohgren and Yurov, et al…I’m pretty sure we would forget all about Kaprizov, Zuccarello, and 1st round exists very easily and very soon!


Even if you replace Carlsson with Rossi, I like how it looks. We need to address the D corps though. My guess is we take some bigger guys in RD 2.
12 juin 2023 à 16 h 43
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Edstrom would be perfect for the Wild at 21!

Carlsson, Ek, and Edstrom down the middle…moving Rossi and Khusnutdinov to the Wing with Boldy, Ohgren and Yurov, et al…I’m pretty sure we would forget all about Kaprizov, Zuccarello, and 1st round exists very easily and very soon!


Forgetting the best player to ever don the jersey is ridiculously inconceivable. Fans would **** about losing him whether the team was successful or not.
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 44
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Quoting: jnowariak
Even if you replace Carlsson with Rossi, I like how it looks. We need to address the D corps though. My guess is we take some bigger guys in RD 2.


I think if Rossi can be moved to wing (like here) it makes everything else better and easier.

Ceulemans and Strbak a bigger dmen.
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12 juin 2023 à 16 h 46
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Forgetting the best player to ever don the jersey is ridiculously inconceivable. Fans would **** about losing him whether the team was successful or not.


The fans would gladly forget all about Kaprizov if they actually put a legit Cup contender on the ice for a decade!
 
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