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Créé par: DarylMcNeckHead

Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 21 mai 2023

Publié: 21 mai 2023

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Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DET)

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Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

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Jets trade Pionk and the 18th pick to Detroit for pick #9.

Is this close? If not how far off is the value?

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Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 4	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Wheeler, Blake 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
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Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6		Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G UFA - 2
Schmidt, Nate 5 950 000 $5 950 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	DeMelo, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Rittich, David 900 000 $900 000 $ G UFA - 1
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	Perfetti, Cole 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, C RFA - 2

21 mai 2023 à 11 h 6

MisstheWhalers

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Doubt Wings fans will like this, they'd likely still decline if it was Connor instead of Pionk.

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21 mai 2023 à 11 h 7

Nhl_oilers

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Not close enough to get 9OA. Give them Cole Perfetti at least, but even then I don’t know if Detroit does it. This draft is insanely deep… there are so many very good players, so I think it would have to be more than Pionk, and 18OA for 9OA.

21 mai 2023 à 11 h 11

IDKtbh

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Moving up from 18 to 9 would probably take the equivalent of a 1st & 2nd round pick.

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21 mai 2023 à 11 h 13

DarylMcNeckHead

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Daryl

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Quoting: Nhl_oilers

So if the draft is very deep then the difference in quality of prospect from 9 to 18 wouldn’t be too crazy then? I figure Pionk has the value of a 2nd round pick so I thought it might be slow to move up 9 spots.

21 mai 2023 à 11 h 20

DeadWingsv2

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Detroit is not moving a top 10 pick. Pionk for a 2nd, or no.

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21 mai 2023 à 11 h 23

DarylMcNeckHead

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit is not moving a top 10 pick. Pionk for a 2nd, or no.

Makes sense. I figure the value of Pionk is a 2nd and the value to trade from 18 to 9 would be a 2nd round pick. So in theory the value is there but detroit is probably not trading down?

21 mai 2023 à 11 h 55

Adirn22

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The value isn't terrible but wings need that top 10 pick more than they need to fill the rd void. Only way I would move back is if it was only back 2 or 3 picks and someone made it worth our while.

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21 mai 2023 à 12 h 3

DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: DarylMcNeckHead

Makes sense. I figure the value of Pionk is a 2nd and the value to trade from 18 to 9 would be a 2nd round pick. So in theory the value is there but detroit is probably not trading down?

The drop back 9 picks, out of the top 10 is worth an additional 1st and probably more on top of that, that's a major drop back. Detroit will be using 9OA for a significant piece.

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21 mai 2023 à 12 h 22

aedoran

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Doubt Wings fans will like this, they'd likely still decline if it was Connor instead of Pionk.

If it were Connor it would depend on who's still on the board but thats just me.

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21 mai 2023 à 12 h 40

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buffbry

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Doubt Wings fans will like this, they'd likely still decline if it was Connor instead of Pionk.

If it was Connor I'd just give you the pick ++

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21 mai 2023 à 12 h 42

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Winnipeg can't afford to trade a top 4 RHD for less than it costs to replace him.

21 mai 2023 à 16 h 33

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Adirn22

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Quoting: buffbry

If it was Connor I'd just give you the pick ++

Quoting: aedoran

If it were Connor it would depend on who's still on the board but thats just me.

Quoting: buffbry

If it was Connor I'd just give you the pick ++

I'd like to see who is on the board still as well. But I'd be willing to part with pick 9 and more for a proven commodity. But if a player or two Yzerman loves are still available keep the picks.

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21 mai 2023 à 16 h 47

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aedoran

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Quoting: Adirn22

I'd like to see who is on the board still as well. But I'd be willing to part with pick 9 and more for a proven commodity. But if a player or two Yzerman loves are still available keep the picks.

I agree. Detroit needs a high end goal scorer and unless you're really lucky you don't usually find those outside the 3.

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21 mai 2023 à 18 h 11

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MoSeider53

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Detroit's not trading the 9 oa for the 18 oa and Pionk. No way is Yzerman trading down 9 spots. We're linked to Tyson Barrie no need to trade for Pionk.

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