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Holland is in trouble

Créé par: hkelleher
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2023
Publié: 20 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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EDM
  1. Veleno, Joseph [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
MN 2023 4th becomes a DET 2024 3rd & DET 4th if Veleno does not sign with the Oilers
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EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (STL)
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EDM
  1. Gorman, Liam [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
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UFA - 7
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UFA - 2
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 18
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Detroit doesn't even take that call. Trash offer.
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 20
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Even with how trashy of a move Veleno made, that's still a bad deal lol. Also, pretty sure those are illegal conditions.
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 21
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Detroit doesn’t want Yamo, please stop trying to make “fetch” happen!
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 31
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Veleno is worth more
20 mai 2023 à 18 h 42
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Its gonna take a lot to dump that Campbell contract
20 mai 2023 à 18 h 45
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Bjugstad Is going to be 1.5M to 1.75M

Bouchard isn’t signing for 5x5 ether, Bouchard is a bridge at 3M to 4M for 2yrs

McLeod is 1.5M at the most, he has no arbitration rights.

Campbell is a buyout or significant picks or prospects
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 50
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I'm not really sure what this does for the blues. We have Tucker, Rosen, Bortuzzo and Perunovich for bottom pairing and 7th man duties
20 mai 2023 à 18 h 56
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The max length that Bouchard will sign for on a bridge deal is 2 years. This can probably be done for under $4,000,000 AAV.

It would be a mistake to pay McLeod that much this year, it will be closer to $1,000,000 on a 1 year deal, cap space is going to be really tight to make impactful moves.

All the rest of the RFA’s will be at $775,000, any more than that is problematic cap-wise. None rate more than that anyways. Philp and Lavoie could make the team, but they won’t be starters unless injury hits.

Bjugstad won’t be back, he’ll get a better deal elsewhere and he proved to be no better than a 4th liner, so these players should be paid under $900 K to make the cap work.

Niemaleinen might net just a 5th, more likely a 6th, but definitely not a 3rd.

Yamamoto will be part of a bigger deal, possibly for EK65.

Campbell is better than Lyon and he had sorted out his equipment woes and his game in April. He was a top 3 goaltender from April onwards. Woodcroft’s biggest mistake in the playoffs was not starting him in Game 6. Campbell is not going anywhere.

Also, never make trades on here with Detroit, their fans are probably the most passionate (and unreasonable) on this site, lol.
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20 mai 2023 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Even with how trashy of a move Veleno made, that's still a bad deal lol. Also, pretty sure those are illegal conditions.


What trashy move did Veleno make?
20 mai 2023 à 19 h 2
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
What trashy move did Veleno make?


Stomped on someone's foot with his skates. Very trashy and uncharacteristic.
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20 mai 2023 à 19 h 23
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I'm not really sure what this does for the blues. We have Tucker, Rosen, Bortuzzo and Perunovich for bottom pairing and 7th man duties


And Scandella.
20 mai 2023 à 19 h 38
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Hawks obviously decline
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20 mai 2023 à 19 h 38
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No thanks. We need centers more than wingers.
20 mai 2023 à 19 h 47
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I make typos
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Detroit doesn't even take that call. Trash offer.


thats fine we don't want your trash player
20 mai 2023 à 21 h 22
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PlusMinus is stupid
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thats fine we don't want your trash player

For what it's worth, I wasn't aware what Veleno had done in worlds until just now... absolutely disgraceful and disgusting...
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21 mai 2023 à 3 h 41
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Veleno alone is worth more than Yamamoto, And we add a 4th on top of it as well. shakes head
21 mai 2023 à 18 h 24
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Blues say no
Just no point too do that
22 mai 2023 à 1 h 34
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Veleno alone is worth more than Yamamoto, And we add a 4th on top of it as well. shakes head


Not sure how you have come to this conclusion.

Veleno hasn’t scored anywhere close to what Yamamoto has done in the NHL and in the AHL they have the same amount of points, Veleno played in 19 more games. KY has 50 career NHL goals to JV’s 36 total NHL points. KY is a great PKer, does Veleno even PK? And Veleno has the worst fancy stats of all DRW C’s and is a 42% on the dot. What gives?

Every shred of evidence clearly points to Veleno being the trash player.
 
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