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Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Now What?

5 juin 2023 à 11 h 17
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5 juin 2023 à 11 h 25
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I gotta say, one thing I low-key enjoyed was how angry Dubas made the hockey world just by existing.
5 juin 2023 à 13 h 17
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Must be nice


Dont worry soon we will have that but with King Knies signing the best cheap deal whenever hes due
5 juin 2023 à 20 h 34
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Watching him this playoffs Barbashev should 100% be a target this summer if Bertuzzi extends in Boston

Wow was that a solid hit on Gudas
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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 22
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Watching him this playoffs Barbashev should 100% be a target this summer if Bertuzzi extends in Boston

Wow was that a solid hit on Gudas


I can totally expect Treliving to overpay a playoff hero, it’s not like he hasn’t done it in the past, Toffoli/Coleman.

Brad overpays him with term and we get this
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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 23
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Modifié 5 juin 2023 à 21 h 31
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I can totally expect Treliving to overpay a playoff hero, it’s not like he hasn’t done it in the past, Toffoli/Coleman.

Brad overpays him with term and we get this
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Even before his amazing playoffs look how he played once traded from the Blues

23 gp 6 goals 10 assists 16 points thats pretty good and if we include playoffs 42 games played 12 goals 22 assists 34 points

Then you got the 60 point season last year

Really would like to see his card after this run with VGK as a lot of those negative stats probs way improved rn

I would say what Marchment got wouldnt be so bad but got a feeling someone's waiting with a bigger deal
5 juin 2023 à 21 h 33
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Even before his amazing playoffs look how he played once traded from the Blues

23 gp 6 goals 10 assists 16 points thats pretty good and if we include playoffs 42 games played 12 goals 22 assists 34 points

Then you got the 60 point season last year

Really would like to see his card after this run with VGK as a lot of those negative stats probs way improved rn

I would say what Marchment got wouldnt be so bad but got a feeling someone's waiting with a bigger deal


Who knows what Barbashev is
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Hopefully VGS keeps him, he certainly looks good under their system
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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 34
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Who knows what Barbashev is
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Hopefully VGS keeps him, he certainly looks good under their system


I think he would do very well next to Matthews or having a RW like Marner on his line. Hes not my first choice but hes a good option to explore
5 juin 2023 à 21 h 40
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I think he would do very well next to Matthews or having a RW like Marner on his line. Hes not my first choice but hes a good option to explore


TOR’s pressing need next year is to find a long term solution at 2C. I’m more than comfortable having Tavares and Knies as the top 6 LW.

It’s literally Barbashev and Bertuzzi as FA targets. Both are going to get over payed with term.
5 juin 2023 à 21 h 45
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TOR’s pressing need next year is to find a long term solution at 2C. I’m more than comfortable having Tavares and Knies as the top 6 LW.

It’s literally Barbashev and Bertuzzi as FA targets. Both are going to get over payed with term.


I wouldn't say it's their most pressing need. I'd like to see it, and it will need to happen at some point, but the sudden notion that Matthews/Tavares as your 1-2 at C isn't good enough is crazy to me. They have time to address that.
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5 juin 2023 à 21 h 51
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I wouldn't say it's their most pressing need. I'd like to see it, and it will need to happen at some point, but the sudden notion that Matthews/Tavares as your 1-2 at C isn't good enough is crazy to me. They have time to address that.


To me you should explore but u could also start drafting

As rn Matthews 1c, Tavares 2c is a top C duo. JT's getting older but hes still a solid 2c in this league

But if we go explore route you could gamble on someone.

Like look at VGK they went out took a chance on Stepehson and now hes their 2c.

Seen Anaheim ACGM moving on from Lunderstrom maybe hes a target. 23 years old and is a nice 2-way C. Maybe there's something to explore here

Or u just try and draft someone
5 juin 2023 à 21 h 58
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I wouldn't say it's their most pressing need. I'd like to see it, and it will need to happen at some point, but the sudden notion that Matthews/Tavares as your 1-2 at C isn't good enough is crazy to me. They have time to address that.


All good, agree to disagree on that one. I look at Pavelski, Stamkos, and Giroux that have extended their careers by moving to the wing. Tavares never had good wheels but even more so know looks incredible slow.

TOR needs an injection of speed and youth into this roster and I hope they look at upgrading 2C role before a winger. But that’s me
5 juin 2023 à 22 h 5
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Who knows what Barbashev is
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Hopefully VGS keeps him, he certainly looks good under their system


A product of Eichel and Marchessault
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5 juin 2023 à 22 h 14
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A product of Eichel and Marchessault


So in Toronto playing with Matthews and Nylander or Tavares and Marner should = similar results if we go by that logic

But that would also depend on Matthews being healthy and not at 75% like we saw this season
5 juin 2023 à 22 h 23
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So in Toronto playing with Matthews and Nylander or Tavares and Marner should = similar results if we go by that logic

But that would also depend on Matthews being healthy and not at 75% like we saw this season


But why bother bringing in another player that needs to play with the core to find success? Especially considering the amount of money Barbashev is going to cost, I think it's a bad idea. Really hoping for Bertuzzi if we go down the winger route
5 juin 2023 à 22 h 31
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But why bother bringing in another player that needs to play with the core to find success? Especially considering the amount of money Barbashev is going to cost, I think it's a bad idea. Really hoping for Bertuzzi if we go down the winger route


Bertuzzi is my first choice but if he extends in Boston if Leafs went out and brought in Barbashev or Killorn I wouldnt be to upset (well depends on the deal).

As other than those 3 not many options that are better or that we can bring in without issue.

Tarasenko probs gonna cost to much and how much Patches gonna want. Everyone else either to old or not top 6 anymore or doesnt want to come to Canada.

Rn if I was to go in order

1. Bertuzzi 5.5mill x 5 years

2. Killorn 4.75mill x 2 years

3. Barbashev 4.25 mill x 4 years

Some interesting decisions ahead but the goal is simple add more scoring as in playoffs its been proven we still need it.
5 juin 2023 à 23 h 41
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Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind buying low on Foegele. Really wanted him when Carolina was looking to move him and think he fits the bill for what Treliving might be looking for. Could be some big breakout potential for the guy. If not, his style of play is also helpful
5 juin 2023 à 23 h 59
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Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind buying low on Foegele. Really wanted him when Carolina was looking to move him and think he fits the bill for what Treliving might be looking for. Could be some big breakout potential for the guy. If not, his style of play is also helpful


There is no breakout potential. Just a useful forechecker. Any major variance will just be % based
6 juin 2023 à 0 h 37
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A product of Eichel and Marchessault


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So in Toronto playing with Matthews and Nylander or Tavares and Marner should = similar results if we go by that logic

But that would also depend on Matthews being healthy and not at 75% like we saw this season


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6 juin 2023 à 1 h 24
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People saying Leafs need to go find a nice young C. 2 names come to mind

Geekie (SEA) and Lunderstrom (ANA)

I think either one between JT and Marner is fine. Lunderstrom I like because of the potential.
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6 juin 2023 à 1 h 27
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People saying Leafs need to go find a nice young C. 2 names come to mind

Geekie (SEA) and Lunderstrom (ANA)

I think either one between JT and Marner is fine. Lunderstrom I like because of the potential.


Both would be excellent adds. I'm firming atop the Geekie train, but if Lundestrom is for whatever reason made available, then you make that call.

Domi seems like a logical target
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6 juin 2023 à 1 h 32
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Both would be excellent adds. I'm firming atop the Geekie train, but if Lundestrom is for whatever reason made available, then you make that call.

Domi seems like a logical target


Watched Domi in Dallas man did he disappear at times. Like

20 gp 2 goals 5 assists playoffs 19gp 3 goals 10 assists 52PIM

But he is a Tree guy and the legacy in Toronto from his dad might finally put him in a Leaf jersey. But man im getting Ritchie vibes

Im eyeing Lunderstrom as hes a 2-way Swede who has surprised me. Didnt have the best season in ANA but last year 16 goals 13 assists 29 points. Put him between JT and Nylander could see it improve. Also a nice PKer

Now I need to keep tabs on it there is someone else. Vilardi. LA got cap issues rn and are gonna need to extend some guys. Could swing a trade
6 juin 2023 à 14 h 36
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Danny Briere seems to be making quite the statement today. Hopefully the Leafs have called about Konecny 🤞
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6 juin 2023 à 14 h 46
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Danny Briere seems to be making quite the statement today. Hopefully the Leafs have called about Konecny 🤞


I feel they immediately gonna be like give us Knies.

Im eyeing someone good but cheaper. Laughton
6 juin 2023 à 14 h 56
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I feel they immediately gonna be like give us Knies.

Im eyeing someone good but cheaper. Laughton


Laughton isn't good tho
 
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