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Créé par: AWhiteOreo
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2023
Publié: 6 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Scenario: Lou retires and a new management takes over. Inspired by the Rangers quick ascent, Islanders want to get younger, faster, and aim for the future. They don't want to tank with some good players on team, but serious need to retool.

Goal: build solid foundation around 4 key players (Barzal, Dobson, Horvat, Sorokin) and aim for 2025/26 contention window. Load up on 1 or 2 year contracts, trade away bulk, take chances on rebuilding players (Zadina, Gurianov etc.), insulate core. With Sorokin in net and some solid pieces around him, totally bottoming out isn't an option.


NOTES:
-Gurianov won't get QO'd and will become a UFA
-Ideally trade Palmieri but I don't see any team taking him on with that 16 team NTC (maybe can trade in last year of deal with retention) but good veteran presence either way
-Lee, similar to Palmieri, unmovable. Good captain who loves long Island, keeping him keeps the locker room in check
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Gurianov, Denis1 000 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
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NYI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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NYI
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel (1 000 000 $ retained)
4.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 838 333 $0 $0 $5 661 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
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UFA - 3
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9 150 000 $9 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
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RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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RFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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RFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 6
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6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
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UFA - 2

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6 mai 2023 à 22 h 1
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Wahlstrom has been a lot better than Zadina, would rather continue to develop him than a guy who hasn’t shown anything at the NHL level
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Db1899
Wahlstrom has been a lot better than Zadina, would rather continue to develop him than a guy who hasn’t shown anything at the NHL level


Sure, but that's why they're getting paid for him while also dumping off a bad contract. Zadina is the same age but hasn't found a role in Detroit. Selling high on Aho and getting rid of Clutterbuck is a worthwhile deal to take a big swing on Zadina. I don't see Aho coming back with 4 solid D anyways.
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 6
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No. Red Wings don't need more LD.
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6 mai 2023 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
No. Red Wings don't need more LD.


Looks like it's just Wallman, Chiarot, and Maatta right now. I'd imagine Edvinsson gets another year in the AHL (to start at least) and Aho is a really good PP stop gap. Running 4LD and 2RD isn't the end of the world (most teams do this anyways) plus, looks like Wallman and Chiarot played some serious minutes together last year (unless I'm mistaken). Bottom pair of Aho-Lindstrom is most likely good
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 13
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Seriously the Detroit trade makes no sense for either team.
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 18
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Sure, but that's why they're getting paid for him while also dumping off a bad contract. Zadina is the same age but hasn't found a role in Detroit. Selling high on Aho and getting rid of Clutterbuck is a worthwhile deal to take a big swing on Zadina. I don't see Aho coming back with 4 solid D anyways.


Aho was great for the isles and he’s cheap for another year, with the isles lack of puck moving on the backend they can’t afford to move him right now
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 26
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Looks like it's just Wallman, Chiarot, and Maatta right now. I'd imagine Edvinsson gets another year in the AHL (to start at least) and Aho is a really good PP stop gap. Running 4LD and 2RD isn't the end of the world (most teams do this anyways) plus, looks like Wallman and Chiarot played some serious minutes together last year (unless I'm mistaken). Bottom pair of Aho-Lindstrom is most likely good


Lindstrom stinks and is currently looking for a team in Sweden to play for next season. Edvinsson is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery but he'll slot in LD eventually. Chiarot will be playing RD when Edvinsson returns. There's no room for Aho in Detroit.

Walman plays with Seider. Chiarot began playing the season with Seider but the 2 didn't mesh. Walman fits Seider like a glove and Seider started racking up the points immediately after pairing with him.

Edvinsson's injury gives Johansson an opportunity and Yzerman will give him a chance in training camp to see where he's at. McIsaac might even get a look for 7D.
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6 mai 2023 à 22 h 34
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Quoting: AWhiteOreo
Looks like it's just Wallman, Chiarot, and Maatta right now. I'd imagine Edvinsson gets another year in the AHL (to start at least) and Aho is a really good PP stop gap. Running 4LD and 2RD isn't the end of the world (most teams do this anyways) plus, looks like Wallman and Chiarot played some serious minutes together last year (unless I'm mistaken). Bottom pair of Aho-Lindstrom is most likely good


Edvinsson is hurt but once back will be with the team, we also have mcissac if we needed a call up which would be same as aho. Wings don't need or want clutterbuck at all, so this trade makes no sense from a wings perspective. Zadina for wahlstrom is more then fair
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6 mai 2023 à 22 h 43
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Quoting: AWhiteOreo
Looks like it's just Wallman, Chiarot, and Maatta right now. I'd imagine Edvinsson gets another year in the AHL (to start at least) and Aho is a really good PP stop gap. Running 4LD and 2RD isn't the end of the world (most teams do this anyways) plus, looks like Wallman and Chiarot played some serious minutes together last year (unless I'm mistaken). Bottom pair of Aho-Lindstrom is most likely good


Wait until this guy finds out about Albert Johansson, who looked to be fighting for a spot in the pre-season last year.
6 mai 2023 à 22 h 58
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Hawks would probably rather use their 2nd rounders to trade up in the draft rather than trade for Wahlstrom
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7 mai 2023 à 1 h 53
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Oilers Can't afford a 4 million 3rd line center.
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Avs wouldn’t give up a first in this year’s draft for Nelson.
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7 mai 2023 à 7 h 59
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If this is a retool why kill Wally’s value with Bailey just keep Josh
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7 mai 2023 à 8 h 0
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Avs wouldn’t give up a first in this year’s draft for Nelson.


Lmao a 31yo 35+ goal scorer and PPG player making 6m for 2 more years is worth more than a mid 20s pick.
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7 mai 2023 à 8 h 30
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Wahlstrom is a nice player but can't see the Hawks trading what amounts to two 2nd's to get him (the actual pick and the 2nd it takes to dump Bailey)
7 mai 2023 à 9 h 28
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Wahlstrom is a nice player but can't see the Hawks trading what amounts to two 2nd's to get him (the actual pick and the 2nd it takes to dump Bailey)


Why would the Hawks dump Bailey he has 1 year left at $5M and they're struggling to hit the floor. If he plays decently, you retain half and trade him for a third or a fourth. It's a very worthwhile proposition for a basement team
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Quoting: Optimism
Oilers Can't afford a 4 million 3rd line center.


Oilers save $2M for next season by making that move and get a solid bottom 6 player without giving up much. Seems like a win to me.
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7 mai 2023 à 9 h 33
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Wait until this guy finds out about Albert Johansson, who looked to be fighting for a spot in the pre-season last year.


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Edvinsson is hurt but once back will be with the team, we also have mcissac if we needed a call up which would be same as aho. Wings don't need or want clutterbuck at all, so this trade makes no sense from a wings perspective. Zadina for wahlstrom is more then fair


Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Lindstrom stinks and is currently looking for a team in Sweden to play for next season. Edvinsson is out 4-6 months after shoulder surgery but he'll slot in LD eventually. Chiarot will be playing RD when Edvinsson returns. There's no room for Aho in Detroit.

Walman plays with Seider. Chiarot began playing the season with Seider but the 2 didn't mesh. Walman fits Seider like a glove and Seider started racking up the points immediately after pairing with him.

Edvinsson's injury gives Johansson an opportunity and Yzerman will give him a chance in training camp to see where he's at. McIsaac might even get a look for 7D.


I mispoke. I meant Chiarot-Maatta, not Wallman. Looks like Detroit has a solid top 4 and then a few young guys vying for spots. I think a guy like Aho can push the pace a little and make some of the younger guys work harder to earn that spot. Not everyone can come in and be a superstar or even play at a solid NHL level (expecting Edvinsson to walk in as a rookie after a lengthy injury is wishful thinking). One year under a mill, even if he gets pushed out of the lineup, Aho is a very valuable asset other teams would lineup for. Again like I said, a good stop gap for Detroit who is looking to make an actual playoff push this year, not just "develop" for another season
7 mai 2023 à 10 h 30
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Why would the Hawks dump Bailey he has 1 year left at $5M and they're struggling to hit the floor. If he plays decently, you retain half and trade him for a third or a fourth. It's a very worthwhile proposition for a basement team


You misunderstood my point. The Hawks are giving up the 2nd that the Isles would pay the Hawks to take Bailey, plus they are sending the Isles pick #44. So that's the two 2nd's for Wahlstrom.
7 mai 2023 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: AWhiteOreo
I mispoke. I meant Chiarot-Maatta, not Wallman. Looks like Detroit has a solid top 4 and then a few young guys vying for spots. I think a guy like Aho can push the pace a little and make some of the younger guys work harder to earn that spot. Not everyone can come in and be a superstar or even play at a solid NHL level (expecting Edvinsson to walk in as a rookie after a lengthy injury is wishful thinking). One year under a mill, even if he gets pushed out of the lineup, Aho is a very valuable asset other teams would lineup for. Again like I said, a good stop gap for Detroit who is looking to make an actual playoff push this year, not just "develop" for another season


I understand your thinking but I think Detroit is better off not trying to aim for a playoff spot considering our lack of forward depth.
7 mai 2023 à 12 h 11
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Oilers save $2M for next season by making that move and get a solid bottom 6 player without giving up much. Seems like a win to me.


Then we need to replace Ceci. Seriously no cap space.
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7 mai 2023 à 14 h 22
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Avs would need retention on Nelson, I would ask for 50% if it's this years first.
9 mai 2023 à 21 h 19
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Would Wahlstrom and Bailey for the Stars 2023 3rd work?
10 mai 2023 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Pat_Foley
Would Wahlstrom and Bailey for the Stars 2023 3rd work?


I think Wahlstrom is worth a little more than that. He's got a good ceiling but may need a change of scenery
10 mai 2023 à 11 h 58
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Why would Edmonton trade their 1st pairing RHD and a very effective winger for an overpaid 3rd line center?
 
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