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Forum: GM Game 2019-20Thu at 9:28 pm

Sujet: Trade thread 2021/2022 season

:islanders
<em>Tuukka Tieksola</em>
2023 5th (COL)

:avalanche
Marcus Pettersson

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 7:32 pm

Sujet: New York Rangers

Both teams easily decline.
You cant have a trade condition based on if he re-signs.

Forum: GM Game 2019-20Mon at 8:52 pm

Sujet: Waiver placement 21 22 season

:avalanche

Michael Dal Colle 2×800k

Forum: Armchair-GM 1 sep à 14 h 55

Sujet: Pageau

Ok np. LL counters with bellows panik and a 3rd for guentzel and a 5th.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 aoû à 13 h 17

Sujet: Now or he leaves for nothing next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol ok, if you think Walstrom will ever be remotely as good as Gaudreau then sure. I highly doubt it though.

Not like you guys wont have the cap space next year to resign Gaudreau</div></div>

Um actually
1. We don't gave the space either this year or next.
2. I'm not moving Wahlstrom and a 1st for gaudreau top play RW. I know it sounds stupid maybe but he's never done it and idk how our will affect his play.
3. Adding Mayfield is something that isn't agreeable to me. We would already be using a massive chunk of cap on gaudreau so getting rid of our best value contract doesn't make sense. Especially considering an already big hole on D, creating another one doesn't make sense either.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 aoû à 2 h 53

Sujet: Now or he leaves for nothing next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Flames get bent over in all of these</div></div>

I wouldn't do the islanders trade.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 aoû à 0 h 23

Sujet: Trade ALL IN

That islanders deal is atrocious

Forum: Armchair-GM18 aoû à 13 h 43

Sujet: Worst UFA Signings of the Cap Era

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>I agree injuries are definitely hard to factor in. But at the same time he hadn't put up amazing numbers to warrant the length of contract. I think it was more of the Islanders weren't the most desirable place to play that forced their hand into a ridiculous contract.</div></div>

Oh I'm not disagreeing it was a terrible contract, but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Add for play he was the goalie of the future for us and was still a very good player.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 aoû à 13 h 36

Sujet: Worst UFA Signings of the Cap Era

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>Hmmm... I mean you could make that argument about quite a few contracts then. Lucic for example. At the time of his contract signing I thought it was lights out. Lucic embodied everything franchises should look in a player. Size, skill, physical, and leadership. Suddenly speed became the most important factor in the game and he apparently lost his step in just about everything else.</div></div>

Yes but when you give a contract you have to account for decline, accounting for injury is a lot harder and is much more unpredictable.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 aoû à 13 h 29

Sujet: Worst UFA Signings of the Cap Era

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>You're right he wasn't UFA that year. My bad. Well, it is still the worst contract of all time regardless.</div></div>

I disagree. It was a bad contract no doubt considering it was 15 years but it alsolocked up our franchise hoodie at ~4.5 million. There is a silver lining and if he didn't get injured it wouldn't be close to this conversation.

Forum: GM Game 2019-2017 aoû à 19 h 57

Sujet: Trade thread 2021/2022 season

:mapleleafs
Alex Killorn

:avalanche
Vladislav Gavrikov
2023 2nd TOR

Forum: Armchair-GM17 aoû à 1 h 56

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>LA, OTT, DET, NYR.

All 4 of those teams have the assets and are making the transition from rebuilding to competing for a cup/playoffs spot. LA in particular has high-end center prospects to spare and desperately want a young top-six winger. I could easily see a package that could include Turcotte if Kaprizov was moved there. Likewise Yzerman would move a prospect like Raymond if Kaprizov was coming back in the trade. Pinto from Ottawa. Possibly Kaako from NYR.

It's not a bad package offer, but it definitely can be beat.</div></div>

La was the only one I was thinking of. NYR most certainly does not have the cap next year when Zibanejad and fox have to be resigned. I don't see Ottawa moving Cs for a wing when they have a lot of wings and they're short on Cs. As for Detroit I don't see a Raymond for Kaprizov switch when Raymond is gonna be under team control for at lady another 7 years and on an elc for at least another 3. There's a rain teams keep their big prospects and instead of trading them for great players.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 17 h 17

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>If he were going to sign 3x7 he'd be signed already</div></div>

Minnesota won't give him a short term deal but sure

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 16 h 42

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RaZZe</b></div><div>Do you really believe he is going to Russia?🤡 That's just a bluff his agent tried to get a better deal, there's a salary cap in Russia, too, and CSKA is tightly pressed against it. The worst-case scenario for the Wild is Kaprizov signing for three years and walking on FA</div></div>

Lmao this clown actually thinking the cap applies to the team that's owned by... Vladimir Putin 🤡🤡

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 16 h 41

Sujet: How far

Good team 3rd round exit.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 16 h 36

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RaZZe</b></div><div>Lose him for nothing after *checks notes* three years? Oh, how funny...</div></div>

The whole premise is that Kaprizov refuses to sign a long term deal and GMBG isn't willing to do a bridge. So instead of losing him to CSKA Moscow for nothing, he gets value in return but good try 🤡🤡🤡

Forum: Fauteuil - DG16 aoû à 16 h 31

Sujet: way too early deadline

Decline. Not interested in stralman in the slightest

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 16 h 30

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RaZZe</b></div><div>The Wild don't have any need to trade him so if nobody wants to pay the price, they'll just keep him. This is different than, let's say, the Eichel situation. Two picks probably not even in the top25 and a 2nd-round prospect will get outbidded instantly in the market. (Koivula isn't good, he is 22 years old. He played in Finland where I'm from and I got to see his play a lot. He didn't look like a future full-time NHLer.)</div></div>

Oh so they'll lose him for nothing? No problem have fun.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 43

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>That's not even close to acceptable for Kaprizov</div></div>

Ok so what is a fair deal according to you?

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 42

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>They could be good but if KK situation doesn’t go the way they want it to I could see them going into a mini rebuild. They don’t have anybody to replace somebody of that caliber and they won’t be able to afford any big time FAs with those massive buyout years coming up. They could get a massive haul on a retained sign and trade deal for KK and come out of the buyout years stacked.</div></div>

I don't see a retained sign and trade happening (even if they can't come to an agreement) but if it would, that would certainly drive the price up both because of value and because more teams would be involved as they could fit him into the cap.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 40

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RaZZe</b></div><div>If the Wild want futures for Kap, they would want either picks from bottom-feeders or elite prospects. Selling Kaprizov would send them to a full rebuild and a couple of contender-firsts would not cut it.</div></div>

What team has the assets, the cap space, and the want to go get Kaprizov? Obviously every team wants him but which team is gonna want to pay the price for him? The only teams that have those assets are revilers and they're not moving those assets. 2 1sts, Raty, and koivula is a solid offer for Kaprizov IMO. Then you have to take into account if they are trading him it's bc both sides refuse to give in so they lose leverage in trade talks because of that.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 35

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>With covid seasons and down revenue, that's still nearly $2m -- Poile has also never retained salary in any trade in his career (pretty sure).</div></div>

So I'll throw in Golyshev or a 4th/5th round pick.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 33

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>with that being said it'd be so sexy</div></div>

I think this is a cup favorite. Considering the last 2 years and the moves we made this offseason. Dermott>Greene Kaprizov>Eberle Ekholm>Leddy. All we did is upgrade, and considering Tampa is worse i think we would have a really good chance to win.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 28

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I would probably accept that deal, but I wonder if there would be an additional small throw-in for the retention.

Josi - Fabbro
Farrance - Myers
Bolduc - Carrier

that's a pretty solid, young d-core</div></div>

I based it off some conversations I saw you had lmao. In terms of retention I guess someone like Golyshev if you want but it is only 1×1.875. You're not going to get a lot for that.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 aoû à 15 h 28

Sujet: The man The myth The legend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>Lou might be the only one to convince KK to take $7M per year.</div></div>

Its literally the Barzal deal. Not sure why that's a crazy contract.

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