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Bring on the youth

Créé par: fixitf11
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 21 avr. 2023
Publié: 21 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 850 000 $
21 875 000 $
2900 000 $
2950 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Guentzel, Jake (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
4.
5.
PIT
    More compensation for Pettersson
    CBJ
    1. Comrie, Eric
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
    6.
    VAN
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
    7.
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
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    Logo de FLA
    Logo de TOR
    2024
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de VGK
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    2025
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $73 447 917 $0 $0 $10 052 083 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    950 000 $950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    825 000 $825 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    837 500 $837 500 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    C
    RFA
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    886 667 $886 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    DG
    RFA - 4

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    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 5
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    Pass. Keeping Laf at 3.5M or less and the 1st. Rebuild with someone outside the metro 😉
    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 7
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    Canucks pass easily
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    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 10
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    Jeff Carter for Torey Krug is certainly a choice.
    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 14
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    This is definitely something. Not just how realistic these are and am not a fan of a lot of them, but respect the creativity. Rangers trade is intriguing even though I'm not sure they accept
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    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 39
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    NY trade is interesting. Very interesting.

    Rutta does not fetch a 3rd

    I don't see that Buffalo trade working. It's an overpay for Oloffson but then you include Granlund and Buff would pass, even with an overpay.

    Van will want more. You'd have to include an A- / B+ prospect and another, lesser, pick.
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    21 avr. 2023 à 18 h 50
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    Rangers pass. Laffy is staying where he is and definitely worth more than 1 year of any player.
    21 avr. 2023 à 19 h 7
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    Quoting: Victor24
    NY trade is interesting. Very interesting.

    Rutta does not fetch a 3rd

    I don't see that Buffalo trade working. It's an overpay for Oloffson but then you include Granlund and Buff would pass, even with an overpay.

    Van will want more. You'd have to include an A- / B+ prospect and another, lesser, pick.


    Canucks are not trading Demko.He is our goalie of the future.IMHO.
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    21 avr. 2023 à 21 h 7
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    I don't get th Guentzel trade. Laf isn't close to being on Jake's level yet and if he gets there it will be well after the core is done so why bother?
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    22 avr. 2023 à 3 h 55
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    Canucks pass
    22 avr. 2023 à 9 h 44
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    Modifié 22 avr. 2023 à 10 h 3
    Quoting: brgh4life
    I don't get th Guentzel trade. Laf isn't close to being on Jake's level yet and if he gets there it will be well after the core is done so why bother?


    Laf may not be on guentzels level yet
    50 ES points vs 36 ES points
    But Laf has the ability to grow, and is team controlled for another 4 years minimum. Guenztel is a UFA next season, will be 3m (with that retained).

    Just to also clarify.
    at age 23 - Guentzel had 36 even strength points in 16:29
    at age 21 - laf had 35 even strength points in 15:13

    Sorry a 1:1 trade is at least interesting here, but not also getting our first (additionally that first is locked, and likely going to the blackhawks if we win in the first round).
    22 avr. 2023 à 15 h 24
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    Laf may not be on guentzels level yet
    50 ES points vs 36 ES points
    But Laf has the ability to grow, and is team controlled for another 4 years minimum. Guenztel is a UFA next season, will be 3m (with that retained).

    Just to also clarify.
    at age 23 - Guentzel had 36 even strength points in 16:29
    at age 21 - laf had 35 even strength points in 15:13

    Sorry a 1:1 trade is at least interesting here, but not also getting our first (additionally that first is locked, and likely going to the blackhawks if we win in the first round).


    The point is we aren't in a wait for him to grow mode. It's win now for the core then full tear down and rebuild. Jake has 34 playoff goals in 58 games. He is a very proven scorer, Sid's main winger, and one of the core pieces. Trading him isn't worth it.
    22 avr. 2023 à 15 h 55
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    Quoting: brgh4life
    The point is we aren't in a wait for him to grow mode. It's win now for the core then full tear down and rebuild. Jake has 34 playoff goals in 58 games. He is a very proven scorer, Sid's main winger, and one of the core pieces. Trading him isn't worth it.


    We dont need him to grow. We've got panarin and kreider on the left side still.

    The point of the core we currently have is that its balanced heavily between guys in their young 30's and guys in their young 20's.
    By the time panarin is really struggling, his contract should be done, and laf should be fully ready to take his spot.
    Chytil is mika's potential replacement
    Kakko is actually the only one who doesn't have a vet blocking him.
    We've got Schneider who can step in for trouba.

    The core isn't going to need a rebuild, the core will continue to hum along so long as we don't make short sighted moves.
    22 avr. 2023 à 20 h 14
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    Quoting: slater417
    We dont need him to grow. We've got panarin and kreider on the left side still.

    The point of the core we currently have is that its balanced heavily between guys in their young 30's and guys in their young 20's.
    By the time panarin is really struggling, his contract should be done, and laf should be fully ready to take his spot.
    Chytil is mika's potential replacement
    Kakko is actually the only one who doesn't have a vet blocking him.
    We've got Schneider who can step in for trouba.

    The core isn't going to need a rebuild, the core will continue to hum along so long as we don't make short sighted moves.


    I'm talking from a Penguins perspective. Crosby, Malkin, Letang are at the end and having win now players is more important than having guys who will develop into something down the road.
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    23 avr. 2023 à 20 h 28
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    Quoting: brgh4life
    I'm talking from a Penguins perspective. Crosby, Malkin, Letang are at the end and having win now players is more important than having guys who will develop into something down the road.


    Thats great. But trades happen because both teams think they're getting approximate value. 1 year of guentzel for 5 years of Laf is not value, Additionally moving down from the first round, to the 2nd in one of the deepest drafts ever is not value.
    We didn't sell the farm to try to win this season. Otherwise we would've went after Meier.
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    24 avr. 2023 à 9 h 27
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