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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #14: Loser Point Szn

3 avr. 2023 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: ricochetii
The officiating in general is farcical and will remain so until "game management" is no longer a factor.
Call the rulebook and players will be forced to adapt.
Until then, the sometimes a penalty, sometimes not confusion, will continue to be a blight on the league's reputation.

The reluctance to call obvious penalties to achieve a "balance", even more so as playoff "rules" come into effect, is amateurish.
The DOPS is a joke. The war room can't even decide what is/isn't a goal with consistency.

There's no incentive or deterrent to penalties which can cause injuries unless it is applied regardless of the score or reputation of the players.
You want to stop diving? Review them for suspensions/fines. Send only the diver to the box if there wasn't a legitimate penalty on the play. A crosscheck is a crosscheck regardless of how the victim reacts to it. Don't like it, don't crosscheck.


NHL should do what the SHL does

Make refs talk after games and explain why they called play A a Penalty but not play B

Feel it would straighten things out fast as refs who are being bad would be berated by the media
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3 avr. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: aadoyle
NHL should do what the SHL does

Make refs talk after games and explain why they called play A a Penalty but not play B

Feel it would straighten things out fast as refs who are being bad would be berated by the media


That sounds like a great way to get a shortage of refs, I’m all for reforming the DoPS and reffing system but making the refs attend press conferences ain’t it
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3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 9
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That sounds like a great way to get a shortage of refs, I’m all for reforming the DoPS and reffing system but making the refs attend press conferences ain’t it


Hey they eventually gonna get replaced by AI drones. Lets speed up the process
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 11
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backstrom needs to go
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 22
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backstrom needs to go


Looks at Luznetsov
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: aadoyle
NHL should do what the SHL does

Make refs talk after games and explain why they called play A a Penalty but not play B

Feel it would straighten things out fast as refs who are being bad would be berated by the media


There should be accountability, but I don't think that's the way to get it. Refs should be invisible. Their presence should have nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
Subjectivity needs to be removed from the enforcement of the rules before they can be expected to be accurate with the application of those rules.
The strength of a cross check has no bearing. Whether you push, nudge, or slam a player with your stick contact parallel to the ice, it's a cross check. Call it every time, the players stop doing it, and eventually it will become a rarer occurrence where you only need to maintain the standard.
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3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 26
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Quoting: Juiceman
Looks at Luznetsov


Kuzy for Miller goons happen. Kuzy Retain 3 mil for Miller
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Kuzy for Miller goons happen. Kuzy Retain 3 mil for Miller


You want the Canucks to retain 3 mil for 7 years on the better player?
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: Juiceman
You want the Canucks to retain 3 mil for 7 years on the better player?

No caps are retaining on Kuzy
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 31
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No caps are retaining on Kuzy


Kuz just doesn’t seem like a fit. Canucks management have been targeting U26 players.
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3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 38
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Kuz just doesn’t seem like a fit. Canucks management have been targeting U26 players.


I bet you miss nic Dowd
3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 40
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I bet you miss nic Dowd


Yes. Elite 3 goals in 40 games. That was a depressing season
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3 avr. 2023 à 18 h 49
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Yes. Elite 3 goals in 40 games. That was a depressing season


So sad he is 32. Imo the best 4c in the game
3 avr. 2023 à 22 h 54
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ROBERTSON 100 POINTS rock on
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3 avr. 2023 à 22 h 57
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ROBERTSON 100 POINTS rock on


Benn is an art Ross winning tho
3 avr. 2023 à 22 h 57
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NHL ready good young goalies to me are gonna become as valuable if not more so than good RD prospects

As league avg is at an all time low and so many good goalies are aging out of the league.

3.00gaa and 0.904SV. Havent seen numbers like that since 1995
3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 1
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Young goalies to me are gonna become as valuable if not more so than good RD prospects

As league avg is at an all time low and so many good goalies are aging out of the league.

3.00gaa and 0.904SV. Havent seen numbers like that since 1995


The problem with young goalies is that they are very unpredictable. All goalies are. Tbh draft pedigree means nothing when you have guys like Devon Levi coming out of the 7th round. I think it is more worth it for teams to draft and develop their own goalies. A good goalie coach can go a long way.
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3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 2
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Raty has 9 points in his last 12 games in the AHL which makes me feel a little better about his rocky start. Abbotsford Canucks have been pretty good this year but their line combos have always been questionable

Hoglander-Aman-Karlsson
Podkolzin-Raty-Klimovich

That should be the top 6. I don't get burying Klimovich and Raty in the bottom 6
3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 4
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The problem with young goalies is that they are very unpredictable. All goalies are. Tbh draft pedigree means nothing when you have guys like Devon Levi coming out of the 7th round. I think it is more worth it for teams to draft and develop their own goalies. A good goalie coach can go a long way.


I feel if ever a team goes hey we got to many young good NHL ready goalies we could see a big trade

The record I believe rn is Schneider for the 9OA or something who knows maybe there will be a team to beat that.

As to who idk

But to me Market might be shifting in a new direction where RD will be second class to goalies. As teams will be trading, drafting, and trying to find the next guy/s
3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 9
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Jason Robertson is better than Kirill Kaprizov and I don't really see much of an argument that you could say otherwise
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3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 10
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Quoting: aadoyle
I feel if ever a team goes hey we got to many young good NHL ready goalies we could see a big trade

The record I believe rn is Schneider for the 9OA or something who knows maybe there will be a team to beat that.

As to who idk

But to me Market might be shifting in a new direction where RD will be second class to goalies. As teams will be trading, drafting, and trying to find the next guy/s


Schneider trade was a bombshell, but you have to remember that the Canucks had Roberto Luongo in net as well making one of them expendable (well actually both of them lol). Not many teams will have the luxury of having 2 elite goaltenders. Truly elite goaltenders don't get traded. Most of the goalie circulation happens in free agency
3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 34
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Benn is an art Ross winning tho


Yep. But Robo though.

First 100 point scorer in Dallas Stars history.
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3 avr. 2023 à 23 h 36
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Yep. But Robo though.

First 100 point scorer in Dallas Stars history.


That is actually crazy that they haven't had a 100 point player before. Too bad the goat Loui Eriksson never got there
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4 avr. 2023 à 8 h 27
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First 100 point scorer in Dallas Stars history.

Devils will likely end the season without a 100 point scorer continuing the streak of no one getting over that hurdle in franchise history.
Hughes needs 10 point in the 5 games so there's a small chance to make it happen but not very likely.
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4 avr. 2023 à 8 h 42
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1. I cannot believe that Hextall considered giving up 2 1sts and Zucker for JT Miller.
2. I cannot believe that Rutherford and Alvin didn't jump on the opportunity to rid themselves of JT for that suggested return.
3. I cannot believe that Rutherford and Alvin didn't volunteer to keep Zucker themselves to make the deal happen.
4. I cannot believe that the Canucks managed to downgrade their management team when firing frickin Jim Benning.
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