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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 20 mars 2023
Publié: 20 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
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  1. Olofsson, Victor (2 375 000 $ retained)
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  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (STL)
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  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
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20 mars 2023 à 19 h 15
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don't pay 4 million for engvall tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 16
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don't pay 4 million for engvall tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


He's worth about 2.75. So add 0.5 cause free agency is what it is and another 0.75 because BUF is BUF.

He's a very capable 3rd liner the leafs absolutely should not have moved on from.
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 18
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Obviously, the Blues have less than no interest in that.
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 19
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Well you really don't have that much cap, when there are bonuses to pay, and no teams want bonus carryover to the following year.
No cap in 24/25 to sign RFAs
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20 mars 2023 à 19 h 22
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Yeah that's an no for the blues
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20 mars 2023 à 19 h 22
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Obviously, the Blues have less than no interest in that.


Embrace the rebuild, give away your best players.
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 23
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Well you really don't have that much cap, when there are bonuses to pay, and no teams want bonus carryover to the following year.
No cap in 24/25 to sign RFAs


Ugh, who cares dude. Why let a silly thing like that ruin building a winner. All the best management teams figure out a way to work through that. The only reason to worry about this stuff as a fan is if you assume that the guys in charge are dumb.
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 26
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Embrace the rebuild, give away your best players.


It's not a rebuild, it's a reload. So no.
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20 mars 2023 à 19 h 30
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It's not a rebuild, it's a reload. So no.


Reload deez..

lol nah but in all seriousness why reload? That blueline is atrocious and the starting goalie is on his best days, a proper bellend/psycho(I do like Hofer though) . Is it really worth reloading for some first round exits/9th place finishes? Fresh off a cup win means there's tons of good will among the fan base. They would trust the people in charge and I bet management would be able to do it properly so that theyre not stuck perpetually in the draft lottery like buffalo.
20 mars 2023 à 19 h 42
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Ugh, who cares dude. Why let a silly thing like that ruin building a winner. All the best management teams figure out a way to work through that. The only reason to worry about this stuff as a fan is if you assume that the guys in charge are dumb.


No, I don't think the guys in charge are dumb. But cap is a reality (hence the the name of this WebSite). Actually I think the Sabres are right path o building a winner.
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20 mars 2023 à 19 h 43
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No, I don't think the guys in charge are dumb. But cap is a reality (hence the the name of this WebSite).


I dont deny it is a reality, Im telling you that performance bonuses are the minorest of obstacles for them to overcome if they are a competent management team. Thats not a good enough reason to not aggressively use the space and assets they have to end their *checks notes* 13 year playoff drought?!?
20 mars 2023 à 20 h 4
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Aside from Rasmus Andersson being Not Available and reallistically Untouchable, it will cost a heck of a lot more than that for a 1RD with only a $4.55mil/yr Cap Hit

Andersson's a Stud Defenseman and can't easily be replaced
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20 mars 2023 à 20 h 6
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Engvall signing is awful.
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20 mars 2023 à 20 h 18
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Reload deez..

lol nah but in all seriousness why reload? That blueline is atrocious and the starting goalie is on his best days, a proper bellend/psycho(I do like Hofer though) . Is it really worth reloading for some first round exits/9th place finishes? Fresh off a cup win means there's tons of good will among the fan base. They would trust the people in charge and I bet management would be able to do it properly so that theyre not stuck perpetually in the draft lottery like buffalo.


Setting aside that you absolutely do not understand the fan base or the franchise with regards to tanking/purging top tier players or Army's ability to get the team competitive, answer me on question: how many times have you watched the Blues play in the last year? Because, fair alert, your summary of them sounds exactly like every person who does not watch them at all and just repeats the worst opinions. Answer me that question and then we'll discuss.
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20 mars 2023 à 20 h 50
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Reload deez..

lol nah but in all seriousness why reload? That blueline is atrocious and the starting goalie is on his best days, a proper bellend/psycho(I do like Hofer though) . Is it really worth reloading for some first round exits/9th place finishes? Fresh off a cup win means there's tons of good will among the fan base. They would trust the people in charge and I bet management would be able to do it properly so that theyre not stuck perpetually in the draft lottery like buffalo.


Defense isn’t great for sure. But a lot of it has to do with alotting money to a couple of players not suited to play roles that their designated partners are. Binnington really hasn’t been bad this year aside from a few games. Regardless, Rosen and a first next year don’t really do alot unless it’s gauranteed to be a lotto first which it isn’t.

Buchnevich is far and away our best player right now. And his contract is very reasonable for what he brings. We need defensive prospects not youth on forward, we have quite a bit of good quality of that.
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20 mars 2023 à 22 h 3
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Setting aside that you absolutely do not understand the fan base or the franchise with regards to tanking/purging top tier players or Army's ability to get the team competitive, answer me on question: how many times have you watched the Blues play in the last year? Because, fair alert, your summary of them sounds exactly like every person who does not watch them at all and just repeats the worst opinions. Answer me that question and then we'll discuss.


I assume you mean games that didnt involve the Sabres? I'd say probably 10 or 11 now? Their performance in those games matches what the data suggests and I doubt most fans would disagree with that assessment. Its not like I think they are a bad or anything. And yeah I couldnt possibly understand the fan base (although it is hilarious how every fan base thinks they are so much different from everyone even though we all have like 80% of the same things in common) but nothing Ive said is invalid. All the data suggests that blue line is ass. How is anyone defending it (pun intended) otherwise? Binnington? Not even worth the text. The guys a psycho, and anyone defending his antics is lowkey a psycho too.
20 mars 2023 à 22 h 5
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Defense isn’t great for sure. But a lot of it has to do with alotting money to a couple of players not suited to play roles that their designated partners are. Binnington really hasn’t been bad this year aside from a few games. Regardless, Rosen and a first next year don’t really do alot unless it’s gauranteed to be a lotto first which it isn’t.

Buchnevich is far and away our best player right now. And his contract is very reasonable for what he brings. We need defensive prospects not youth on forward, we have quite a bit of good quality of that.


Hasn't been bad isn't the same as good, and thats before factoring in he's a wacko. Buchnevich is great, no arguing there, but he's also their best trade chip? Im operating from the point of view that they should rebuild, so fans who don't want that won't see eye to eye on this no matter what I suggest, although Id fully be willing to increase what I put in that offer. The only reason I didnt go higher is cause there's a contingent of sabres fans here who think every prospect is crosby and everyone that prospect is hypothetically traded for is dirt. And I just didnt feel like dealing with that lol.
20 mars 2023 à 22 h 5
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Engvall signing is awful.


I've already explained this. Consider looking at that first.
20 mars 2023 à 22 h 7
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Aside from Rasmus Andersson being Not Available and reallistically Untouchable, it will cost a heck of a lot more than that for a 1RD with only a $4.55mil/yr Cap Hit

Andersson's a Stud Defenseman and can't easily be replaced


He doesn't look anywhere stud like this year. Im clearly buying low, but also have no problem adding more. I just didnt for the same reasons listed above re: buchnevich.

As for his availability. I mean yeah probably not. CGY is fully committed to just keep adding regardless after giving Huberdeau that deal. They really should be rebuilding too but, Im not sure they actually can
20 mars 2023 à 23 h 22
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Hasn't been bad isn't the same as good, and thats before factoring in he's a wacko. Buchnevich is great, no arguing there, but he's also their best trade chip? Im operating from the point of view that they should rebuild, so fans who don't want that won't see eye to eye on this no matter what I suggest, although Id fully be willing to increase what I put in that offer. The only reason I didnt go higher is cause there's a contingent of sabres fans here who think every prospect is crosby and everyone that prospect is hypothetically traded for is dirt. And I just didnt feel like dealing with that lol.


Rosen isn't bad. That's not what i was getting at. Also, Binnington and Hofer will most likely be a tandem next season which is fine.

The main premise is I don't think Buffalo has a defensive prospect to accelerate the retool or whatever it is. It also doesn't help that you are asking as we're on a heater and Buchnevich is playing center and on a torrid point streak
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20 mars 2023 à 23 h 43
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He doesn't look anywhere stud like this year. Im clearly buying low, but also have no problem adding more. I just didnt for the same reasons listed above re: buchnevich.

As for his availability. I mean yeah probably not. CGY is fully committed to just keep adding regardless after giving Huberdeau that deal. They really should be rebuilding too but, Im not sure they actually can

I guess you're entitled to your opinion, even if it is completely dead wrong.

If you don't think 0.70PPG for a Defensemen is a Stud, you're insane. He's 18th/312 in Scoring for all NHL Defensemen and 9th/130 in Scoring for Right Shot Defensemen with all of them having pretty much twice as much of a Cap Hit, with the only exception being Brandon Montour. He Plays all facets of the Game: Even Strength, Power Play and Penalty Kill. The Guy's a Top-RD in the League = STUD

Only 12 Teams in the Entire League have fewer losses than the Flames. Yes, we lost our 2 Best Players and our Newest Players in Huberdeau & Kadri have been slow to adjust and have under-performed, but so have our Goaltenders and we lost our 2LD in Kylington for the season as well. Combine that with terrible puck luck (otherwise Mang would have 25+ Goals already) and losing 15 Games in OT (which isn't normal btw) and we're still competing for a Playoff spot. Had we had just 1/2 of those games go our way, we would have 84-85 Points and would be Playoff bound already.

The Calgary Flames are nowhere near needing to rebuild and to write Huberdeau off already because he hasn't adjusted or flourished under Sutter's tight checking and defence first system and to completely dismiss what he did just last season and his entire career previously is so short sighted and absolutely ridiculous, it simply infuriates me how silly your comments are.

I suggest focusing on your Sabres, because it's clear you don't know much about or even watch the Flames and comments like the ones you just made don't make you look good at all. You don't just bring guys in and have them click right away. The Flames missed the Playoffs in 20-21 and then placed 1st in their Conference for the 21-22 Regular Season. We may still sneak in to the Playoffs yet, but I guarantee you the Team will be much Better and Finish Stronger in the Standing Next Year.
20 mars 2023 à 23 h 47
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I guess you're entitled to your opinion, even if it is completely dead wrong.

If you don't think 0.70PPG for a Defensemen is a Stud, you're insane. He's 18th/312 in Scoring for all NHL Defensemen and 9th/130 in Scoring for Right Shot Defensemen with all of them having pretty much twice as much of a Cap Hit, with the only exception being Brandon Montour. He Plays all facets of the Game: Even Strength, Power Play and Penalty Kill. The Guy's a Top-RD in the League = STUD

Only 12 Teams in the Entire League have fewer losses than the Flames. Yes, we lost our 2 Best Players and our Newest Players in Huberdeau & Kadri have been slow to adjust and have under-performed, but so have our Goaltenders and we lost our 2LD in Kylington for the season as well. Combine that with terrible puck luck (otherwise Mang would have 25+ Goals already) and losing 15 Games in OT (which isn't normal btw) and we're still competing for a Playoff spot. Had we had just 1/2 of those games go our way, we would have 84-85 Points and would be Playoff bound already.

The Calgary Flames are nowhere near needing to rebuild and to write Huberdeau off already because he hasn't adjusted or flourished under Sutter's tight checking and defence first system and to completely dismiss what he did just last season and his entire career previously is so short sighted and absolutely ridiculous, it simply infuriates me how silly your comments are.

I suggest focusing on your Sabres, because it's clear you don't know much about or even watch the Flames and comments like the ones you just made don't make you look good at all. You don't just bring guys in and have them click right away. The Flames missed the Playoffs in 20-21 and then placed 1st in their Conference for the 21-22 Regular Season. We may still sneak in to the Playoffs yet, but I guarantee you the Team will be much Better and Finish Stronger in the Standing Next Year.


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21 mars 2023 à 0 h 0
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I assume you mean games that didnt involve the Sabres? I'd say probably 10 or 11 now? Their performance in those games matches what the data suggests and I doubt most fans would disagree with that assessment. Its not like I think they are a bad or anything. And yeah I couldnt possibly understand the fan base (although it is hilarious how every fan base thinks they are so much different from everyone even though we all have like 80% of the same things in common) but nothing Ive said is invalid. All the data suggests that blue line is ass. How is anyone defending it (pun intended) otherwise? Binnington? Not even worth the text. The guys a psycho, and anyone defending his antics is lowkey a psycho too.


Dude, get a grip. There's a wealth of things you don't understand here, but I'm just going to address Binnington and the obsessive, cartoonish pearl clutching people do over him. You guys just shriek and wail and cry, all the while ignoring the cause of most of these pearl clutch incidents. One time, Benn straight up speared him in the nuts unprovoked and suddenly Binnington is whacko because he gave him back all of a mild shove. Never mind that this is HOCKEY, where sticking up for yourself is all but mandatory to survive, let alone thrive. Okay, so a month or so ago, Binnington does nothing but hold back the goon McDermid from jumping one of his teammates from behind = he's a psycho. Muh huh. Sure. Kadri ends his season, but OMG Binnington soft tossed a nearly empty water bottle in the general direction of him, so yeah Binnington is the psycho. Not the guy who tries to injure people almost every playoffs, not the guy with one of the largest suspension histories in the league. Nooo... water bottle. And then this most recent one, Hartman intentionally steps on the back of Binnington's leg (otherwise known as attempt to injure) solely to "try and get into his head" and that's just fine. Nothing to see here. Binnington deserved his penalty and suspension, but tell me, what would you do? Just take it? Puh-lease. Despite constantly being run, often without so much as a penalty, Binnington doesn't even compare to the lunacy in Ed Belfour's pinky toe or Patrick Roy's cowlick (and another bushel of revered goalies, to boot), but suddenly it's pearl clutching time. How dare he give a fraction of what he gets! I have the vapors, fetch my fainting couch!

Gimme a break. Nobody with this childish, parroted take should be attempting to delegitimize anyone else's understanding of the topic.
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21 mars 2023 à 0 h 29
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Dude, get a grip. There's a wealth of things you don't understand here, but I'm just going to address Binnington and the obsessive, cartoonish pearl clutching people do over him. You guys just shriek and wail and cry, all the while ignoring the cause of most of these pearl clutch incidents. One time, Benn straight up speared him in the nuts unprovoked and suddenly Binnington is whacko because he gave him back all of a mild shove. Never mind that this is HOCKEY, where sticking up for yourself is all but mandatory to survive, let alone thrive. Okay, so a month or so ago, Binnington does nothing but hold back the goon McDermid from jumping one of his teammates from behind = he's a psycho. Muh huh. Sure. Kadri ends his season, but OMG Binnington soft tossed a nearly empty water bottle in the general direction of him, so yeah Binnington is the psycho. Not the guy who tries to injure people almost every playoffs, not the guy with one of the largest suspension histories in the league. Nooo... water bottle. And then this most recent one, Hartman intentionally steps on the back of Binnington's leg (otherwise known as attempt to injure) solely to "try and get into his head" and that's just fine. Nothing to see here. Binnington deserved his penalty and suspension, but tell me, what would you do? Just take it? Puh-lease. Despite constantly being run, often without so much as a penalty, Binnington doesn't even compare to the lunacy in Ed Belfour's pinky toe or Patrick Roy's cowlick (and another bushel of revered goalies, to boot), but suddenly it's pearl clutching time. How dare he give a fraction of what he gets! I have the vapors, fetch my fainting couch!

Gimme a break. Nobody with this childish, parroted take should be attempting to delegitimize anyone else's understanding of the topic.


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