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(DET/VAN) - Hronek for 2023 1st and 2nd

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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 10
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Are the Wings officially giving up on the postseason? I'm baffled by this move tbh.


Their probability of making the playoffs is currently 11%...plus how could you turn down this return?
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 12
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> Vancouver buying at the deadline despite their **** record
> Unironically paying a 1st and a 2nd for Hronek

1 mars 2023 à 17 h 12
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What a cap hell for VAN in 2024-2025 flushed cheeks
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 12
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Hronek has shown signs, at times, of being a decent offensive d-man but he is horrible at defending. If the Wings upgrade at the deadline this is a great move.
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: JmoneyTalk
Hronek is a rfa at the end of his current deal


Ah makes much more sense. Thank you.

Still a weird trade tho in a way the nucks are supposed to rebuild while the wings still have a shot at a playoffs spot.

Guess VAN wants more of a retool while the wings realise and accept they can't really make the playoffs this year.
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 14
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Wow. I really like this for the Canucks. They finally got their Hughes partner.

Edit: Detroit obviously made out pretty good here too. Think it's pretty fair overall.


Hronek is an offensive D man too though, I don't think him and Hughes make sense as a pairing at all.
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 14
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Stunned initially seeing this, but some of yall pointed out a possible Chychrun outcome and now I don't know how to feel....
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 15
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Whether this trade is good or not depends entirely on the conditions for that pick
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 15
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The first-rounder should be somewhere between #13 to #18 (Islanders won't fall off far enough for the pick to shift to 2024) so that's probably a little less than what Hronek is worth (comparing him to Romanov), but not pick #40 less. (Gosh, I would LOVE to have that pick now that we've traded our 2023 first!) This was a good trade for Vancouver IF they've found a long-term partner for Hughes (not just for a couple of seasons), but it's a great trade for Detroit WITHOUT any "if's."
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 18
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Oh Jesus, this just keeps getting better. (worse for Canucks?)





Paying a 1st and a 2nd for a D that shouldn't get more than what Carolina paid for Ghost? AND he's injured?! My god, I'm dying from laughter here
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
Whether this trade is good or not depends entirely on the conditions for that pick


It's the pick they got for Horvat, so identical conditions. Top 12 protected / Isles can choose to shift it to 2024 if it's Top 12 (there's some debate about whether the Isles have the choice because of how Lou worded it at his presser
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 21
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I hate this deal, the first isn't going to be in this year's treasure trove of top picks and we have no RD,
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 21
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 21
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Ah makes much more sense. Thank you.

Still a weird trade tho in a way the nucks are supposed to rebuild while the wings still have a shot at a playoffs spot.

Guess VAN wants more of a retool while the wings realise and accept they can't really make the playoffs this year.


Yea it’s definitely a weird trade for both teams. You hit the nail on the head. VAN must feel like they can become more competitive a re tool, Hroneks age fits that window. Not exactly sure what DET thinking, he also fits their current window. Maybe VAN just made an offer they couldn’t resist. Or maybe DET is trying to make a move for a larger player. Who knows.
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 22
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Stunned initially seeing this, but some of yall pointed out a possible Chychrun outcome and now I don't know how to feel....


What if its an Erik Karlsson outcome
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 23
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Yea it’s definitely a weird trade for both teams. You hit the nail on the head. VAN must feel like they can become more competitive a re tool, Hroneks age fits that window. Not exactly sure what DET thinking, he also fits their current window. Maybe VAN just made an offer they couldn’t resist. Or maybe DET is trying to make a move for a larger player. Who knows.


Maybe they are after Chychrun, you never know lol
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 25
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It's the pick they got for Horvat, so identical conditions. Top 12 protected / Isles can choose to shift it to 2024 if it's Top 12 (there's some debate about whether the Isles have the choice because of how Lou worded it at his presser


Makes sense. I misread it at first and I thought it was Vancouver’s first round pick
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 26
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I understand the draft is deep & that's two quality picks (Vancouver's second is going to be 36~), but this trade is puzzling on many levels. First, how will VAN find cap space to pay him in a year. Anyways, why is VAN buying if you move your captain and one culture player. This trade is two years too late. From Detroit perspective, I get that the value is fair, but I'm not sure why you'd move a 25 year old top4 defenseman for only fair value.

EDIT: Unless DET uses those assets to bring, let's say, Chychrun, this makes little sense. Funny thing, if they do, is that the pick used on Chychrun's selection was originally from DET and was moved to ARI with a cap dump!
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 29
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NHL trade market:

"its a sellers market!"
*canucks furiously try to sell all their players for assets

"ok, apparently its a buyers market"
*canucks furiously unload assets for players


Canucks roster: "wtf are we?"
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 29
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Good for both, Vancouver finally gets a partner for Quinny boy

And Detroit sells high on Hronek (even though I have a feeling they could’ve gotten more for him
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 31
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Odd they waited to announce this after Larkin extended.
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 35
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I mean the value was there, and VAN obviously needed a RHD, but they also needed those picks.
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 35
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What if its an Erik Karlsson outcome


Go to hell with that nonsense, respectfully lol
1 mars 2023 à 17 h 36
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kinda seems like a fair trade because i dont think its necessarily makes sense for either team? But I fear any phone calls from Yzerman, so gonna give it to detroit.
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1 mars 2023 à 17 h 38
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There goes all the JT Miller trade rumours. That was the BIG deal, maybe
 
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